Considering I pay my child's bills, as do every parent with a disabled child, your point is invalid. Would you advocate the death of the homeless, veterans who are handicapped and can't work, or foster children? Your logic is heartless. How a person treats those meeker and more vulnerable then them says more about that person then any words can. The fact that you choose to post as a guest shows that you don't want your opinion associated with you. Maybe change it instead of hide in anonymity.

To the first guest: Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And while i obviously don't agree, i would like you to consider why you feel that way. Is there something inherently wrong with those that are different then you? Are people only valuable if they are the same as you? Why in a society that is trying to celebrate and value people who are different, (sex, race, religion, nationality, political views, LGBT, etc) why would you want to with hold that from people who are meeker than you. If our society is to move to one of acceptance, peace, and inclusion, no one should be left out. Those with disabilities deserve inclusion and respect just as much as anyone else.
Only someone who has never met or spoken with someone with Down syndrome could ever have your opinion. Your ideas come from ignorance, and i suggest you educate yourself by seeking a better understanding of those that are different.

to the guest: i absolutely agree that parents do have to agree to raising a disabled child. And because i understand the differences and hardships with a disabled child, i am pro-choice, even though it isn't an option i would ever choose. Yes, 20 years ago, a much larger majority of those born disabled or with severe medical conditions would have died at birth. But that's what makes modern medicine so wonderful. Were able to not just preserve life, but improve the quality of life for all. And through research and therapy, we as a society understand disabilities and complicated medical diagnosis better.
I understand the idea of accepting the responsibilities of a disabled child. and of not. My now ex-husband could not deal with having a disabled child and chose to not be a father or husband. I get it. But people, just because they are not "perfect" do not deserve to be discarded. And hopefully our society can get to a place where we can see value in the different, the imperfect

I hope you never have to counsel someone struggling with depression and suicide.

Then why act as though I am uneducated? And if this IS something you're religious education was afforded, but mine not, can you please tell me where to "educate" myself, rather then being dismissive.

And yes, he did have his flaws, both personal and as a leader. No person is perfect.

I have actually taken many classes on him. His life, before and after he founded the LDS church. I've also read many books. It is a subject i am well versed in. Which is why i know it to be erroneous. When i wanted to learn about Judaism, i went to a Jew. When i wanted to learn about Muslims and the Koran, i went to a Muslim. If you want to know more or have questions about Mormons and the LDS church, i would hope you would go to a Mormon, and not just someone who claims to know about them.

I want to thank the guest who wrote this post. While i don't agree, i want to assure anyone who does feel this way, that you are in no way a monster. The desire to end suffering makes you compassionate, not heartless. But i do want to assure you that most people do not "suffer" with their disabilities, handicaps, diagnosis, or shortcomings. It may not be a life one is envious of, they have fewer choices in life. They have a lot less control and often must be reliant upon others the entire time they are alive. It is a different life. Not less of a life. Just different. Part of who my daughter is, is her diagnosis (Down syndrome). But i don't want her to be "normal". I love who she is, and she has value beyond what she isn't.
Specifically of fatal, and painful childhood diseases, like Tay-sachs, i feel like the only people qualified to decide between continuing in pain, or ending the pain, are the parents of the child. Only they truly understand the situation.

He actually didn't. In fact, this is the first i've ever heard someone say he did. But people also think we have horns and every guy has 5 wives. It's always interesting to read what people think.

If they suffer in society, that is because society needs to learn love and acceptance of those that are different. The problem is not in the shoulders of the disadvantaged.

It is, whether people realize it or not.

Thank you! I loved reading your words! I think this may be an issue only truly understood by those who experience life alongside those who are different.

As someone who has a child who would have died at birth without medical intervention, I don't think you understand how hurtful your words are. The post is at least from an idea of limiting suffering. Your "natural selection" is actually more along the line of eugenics. Should we rid the worth of vaccines? Emergency medicine? Life saving cancer treatments? These are all things that save lives that "natural selection" would have taken out 100 years ago.
Life has value beyond perfection and your definition of expected potential.

I wanna know what got left off.

Like me, you must suffer from "bitch face".

I completely agree. lists like this focus on the wrong end of the problem. Lists like this try to teach you to just be smarter then the next person so they're the victim instead of you. Yes, it's good to be aware of your surroundings and not trust those you don't know. But most people are raped by those they know. Our society should be teaching people not to rape, instead of putting the focus and prevention on the shoulders of the victims and potential victims.

Awwww, thank you!