There's still AliExpress, there's literally everything there. Ah yes, the magical world of chinese ripoffs.

Ah yes, Okami. I know that one, just don't remember you could pee on people in it.

I suppose the line would be drawn by how dangerous the drug is to one's health. Anyway, remember the prohibition? That one beautiful time in history when alcohol was banned and people turned into law abiding sober citizens? Not. Banning alcohol and fighting against it created the completely opposite effect and criminal gangs were on the rise. Now, drug cartels are on the rise. Would that improve if drugs were legalized, taxed and regulated? I believe it would. Maybe they wouldn't get cheaper but they'd get more accessible and using them wouldn't automatically make you a criminal and wouldn't be frowned upon. The cartels would then be out of business, and those that would prevail because of cheap prices could be hunted down by the same force that was used to hunt down literally everything drug-related.

Also my guess is that the third one is Postal 2...maybe?

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~Undertale

Oh no, I used marijuana as an example because it's proven to have some health benefits when made into something else than a blunt, but I'm definitely for legalization, taxing and regulating harder drugs as well. That way you'll get rid off cheaper home-made knock-offs like the krokodil drug which literally makes your flesh rot as a side effect, but will just have clean drugs with as few side effects as possible for people who just want to experience a trip from time to time. And instead of criminalizing drug use and locking people up (I actually quite respect Obama for releasing I don't know how many non-violent drug offenders in the last few months), you'd substitute them with rehabilitation centres.

Also, you've been relatively nice this entire conversation (at least compared to some) but you gotta realize that having different opinions doesn't make me less intelligent or have less common sense and so on. If I was anti vaxx or a climate change denier, that's a different case but political opinions are complicated and disagreeing with you doesn't mean either of us is stupid even though we kinda see each other that way. Yes, unfortunately there are lots of liberal safe space crybabies who want to ban free speech of people who disagree with them but those are feminists and pussies. Also, we're complete opposites, with me being a liberal atheist/anti-theist who's for gun control (not banning guns of course, but the system we have in my country is actually quite to my liking, you gotta pass a psychological and technical test to own a gun permit for a certain type of gun, then you can get it).

Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying this because I'm a stoner, actually I'm pretty purist when it comes to these things, I don't smoke, don't drink neither alcohol nor coffee and use pills only when it's absolutely necessary, but it's so hypocritical that for example weed gets banned while a) it's proven to cause fewer health issues than alcohol, cigarettes, sugar, and can actually be beneficial to your health (not by smoking it tho, I'm talking about balms etc), b) doesn't even do anything serious, just makes you kinda happier for a while. And I know that it's already legalized in some states, but under federal law it's still illegal. And same goes for other drugs! Why not legalize, tax and regulate them? That way we'd get rid of the bad batches that make people's freaking flesh rot, and just have clean things for people who wanna get high?

No no, you haven't understood my comment. Pushing something to be illegal because it's against the law is an infinite loop and even if making something illegal is the immoral thing to do, people will still say it's just "against the law". That was my point, you get me now? Not being a native speaker my expression is sometimes clumsy but you get it, right? I think drugs are illegal unjustly, because we already pump so much shit into our bodies like alcohol, caffeine, painkillers, and so on. They all change our consciousness and may be addictive (some painkillers are actually on the same basis as heroin and therefore they're chemically addictive), but we still do it with these, but make others illegal.

Oh come on, comparing murder with crossing a border illegally out of desperation, that's farfetched. By your logic, doing drugs is illegal because it's against the law. I am wondering what your point of view on that is, actually, because a person's view on drugs often reflects their political views.
Also, I'm with Gary Johnson on this one, you guys need more solid background checks. That doesn't mean just kicking out all people who crossed the border, though.

I never said I'm better THAN anyone. Also, if you're so triggered by opinions, the internet is not a good place for you to be. Go back to your safe space if you dislike opinions.

So no, undocumented immigrants are not all criminals. If they commited a crime while in the US, I'm all for deporting them. But if they crossed the border out of desperation and creeping poverty, can you really blame them?

“Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on,” his campaign says in a release.
It is temporary, I'll give you that, but it still is all Muslims, no matter the country.
As to what concerns deporting all undocumented immigrants, you gotta understand that a large portion of them went to the country to have a better life, and even though they've crossed the border illegally, they have not commited any crimes while in the US. Actually hasn't there been a case in which one of the states did deport a big portion of undocumented immigrants? They had to call them back because none of their trailer trash white supremacists wanted to do the dirty jobs those immigrants did. (Unfortunately I can't give you a source for that, my boyfriend told me he read this but can't remember where as it was some time ago).

@guest The Trump foundation is a huge proof of him being as corrupt as Clinton is. There's your facts, we can move on. I'm going to ignore that part where you call me bigoted and uneducated, I want to keep this conversation calm and civil, no "ur a doodoohead", "no ur a bigger doodoohead", alright?
@guestwho again, my preference is also the lesser of two evils. Judging Trump solely based on his rhetoric is what makes you believe his lies. Of course he sometimes says things you like, he has flip flopped on every issue that's been presented to him so far. But he has also said he wants to bring back torture even if it doesn't work, kill civilians in Syria, ban ALL muslims from entering the country, deport ALL undocumented immigrants. Furthermore this man's skin is so extremely thin, he sued people over jokes. I would not trust a man who gets angry so easily with nuke launch codes. So yes, I would very much prefer a standard corrupt politician to a guy who will start WW3 over a satire.

I see where you're coming from and yes, that is his appeal, but it's not like politician is a hereditary title in Europe (well it is in the British Parliament but then again they have made clear not to be associated with Europe, also the British monarchy is considered outdated and redundant by most Europeans except for the Brits who fucking love their glorified celebrities). You gotta study and work hard to even be considered suitable for a presidential candidate. It's really not ruling class elites, it's pure meritocracy. In Europe, an educated man from a poor family can run and win. In the US, a rich uneducated man has a much bigger chance, and I think that's a big problem.
Also I'm surprised so many Republicans still bear with him, even the Republican party disapproves of his decisions.

Politology is basically political science, so there's that. I disagree, moderate socialism is imo better than extremist capitalism that is common in the US. Don't get me wrong, I'm from a country that was really fucked up by communism and socialism, but there's a huge difference between moderate and extremist. I prefer paying higher taxes to help support universal education, and I don't think that companies being able to "buy" politicians into making laws that help them is good. I'm just pinpointing some policies of course but overall I think a mixture of these two systems is the best thing we can have right now.
But anyway let's say I am indeed a noob in American politics. I understand I don't know it as well as someone who studied it + lives in the US (and if you indeed studied it, I'm impressed). But still I am unable to comprehend how anyone can support a man who a) asked why can't he just nuke other countries, b) endorsed killing civilians and c) isn't even a politician.

@guestwho Yes I am European but I don't appreciate you calling me Euro trash.
Which policies exactly? Yes NAFTA sucked ass but she did apologize for it. As I said, Trump is just as bought by Wall Street, he just hides it pretty well.
Makes his own money? Now you're actually making me laugh. He got all his cash from his daddy, and whenever he starts a business, it's a major failure & Trump declares bankruptcy and runs out the back door with the money. And when he fails to do that, he asks his daddy for more cash. Not a very good businessman if you ask me.
@guest it's not a class "collage" kids take. It's an entire study programme, also why are you so fixated on "what they tell you in school is not 'the real world' "? Why are you so against education? Is it because you have none? Because then I'll have to again mention the statistics on Trump voters...

Oh and also your "Apple products fanboy" guess it completely false. Again you just assume things which are plain wrong, but then again I am not surprised at all. I am also not surprised you went for insults instead of trying to maintain a civil discussion.

You guys do realize that Trump is as much of an insider as Hillary and he's just as bought by Wall Street and corrupt as she is, right? But he hides it behind his rhetoric, which by the way is admirable, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a pathological liar and spews bullshit. Anyone who knows anything about policy substance, and not just judges candidates by their personal life and rhetoric, will vote for Clinton, because even though she's also a horrible candidate, her policy is a million times more agreeable than Trump's. This year's election is a clear case of "personality cult vs policy".
Fun fact: I'm a politology student and EVERYONE in my class supports Clinton because she's the lesser of two evils.
Fun fact no 2: statistics show that Trump supporters are most likely to be uneducated old white males (emphasis on uneducated).

"Clinton's lies?" Trump supporter much? Perhaps YOU should educate yourself and stop taking Trump's lies as gospel: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/
"Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage..."
As I said I have no problem with paying absolutely only what you need to. It just seems greedy especially when you have as much money as Trump does. Also, why are you assuming I'm for welfare handouts? You say try to think here but it seems you haven't done much of that yourself. How about you realize I was talking about stopping your precious job creators from outsourcing their jobs so they would employ locals and therefore help the lower class by creating jobs? But oh wait, who's that greedy rich guy who outsourced jobs despite saying he's fighting for "the people"? Oh right, Donald J. Trump!