Why must you follow me mgoveia? do you like starting shitstorms on every religious post here? What. Are you going to comment on how i'm wrong that I like what the sign says above? Or would you like me to tell you that the only reason you think i'm a hateful christian is because I said something that I was taught in the bible?
The same can be said for you. And Satan finds loopholes in rules that prohibit sins so that humans can commit sin. I see I've been talking to an ignorant Christian this whole time. Stop regurgitating what your pastor taught you and learn about God yourself.
Ok, it's official. You're an irrevocable retard. That, and quite possibly projecting.
Have you not noticed that's it's YOU quoting scripture in that other dumbass post???
Not to mention you ignore LOGIC, don't seem to have an argument, and are perfectly happy just doing the rubber/glue bullshit.
Just...fuck off already. I've more of my daily comments on you than you deserve.
Have you noticed in your walk that you should listen to scripture? Or is that another rule that you like to bend your way? too lazy to read it? I don't ignore logic. I've commented that I wish to bridge the gap between science and religion, I have been the only one who has given an argument while you only hurl insults, and I don't know what rubber/glue shit your talking about. Seriously, what is that?
Again. Only throwing insults rather than giving me evidence to support your side of this argument. maybe you have forgotten what we have been arguing over.
I believe Gay marriage should be legalized.
I believe you can't be Gay and christian at the same time. You do.
I'm the one being ignorant? you didn't even follow the comments i made on the other post. Plus you haven't even made a single intellectual comment to support your views in any way.
Hilarious. You say I ignore you, when in fact I only ignored the string of scripture you quoted as if it matters, yet you forget I HAVE made solid arguments.
In case you're too busy playing your dumbass xbox and having "adrenaline" surges to reread everything, I'll throw you another one.
I've noticed you talk about gays not being able to be Christian because being gay is a sin. Guess what all Christians do? Don't worry, I'll wait...
...fucking judgemental twit.
Edit: To the downthumbers, I don't believe being gay is a sin, if there was any confusion. I was merely trying to state empty's argument as I understand it. Also, you have an actual response to my question, empty, now'd be the time. Your 3rd point below doesn't actually qualify, but nice try.
Got my comments back.
1. The only "solid" arguments you have made are just opinion of what you think God says about homosexuality and you calling me retarded and saying I act like a martyr after giving you evidence in the scripture (which you say doesn't matter, It does. We can argue that too)
2. Attack on Titan tribute game is a pc game, and the adrenaline was me trying to stay awake while being pissed off while arguing with you.
3. I know chrstians sin more than you could ever know but that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about homosexuality. I would gladly push your chair in for you so we have a conversation but I need to leave in an hour so I need to get ready.
4. At any point you feel that we can stop blowing up people's notifications in this post like we did the other give me your email. From there we can exchange phone numbers.
Well it seems that you had enough time to either ask your freinds to hack my profile or to do yourself but not to realise the quality of the scripture in christian life. I believe this argument is over. You are here to hate, not to debate. I hope you learn to love gays and still realize the way we are suppose to live alongside them as the lord has told us.
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... What do you mean he hacked your profile? As far as I know, mgoveia really doesn't care enough to do that...
Ok so your first gut feeling was that some stranger on the internet would hack your profile, just to fuck with you, just 'cause of a silly little argument... Over the INTERNET !!
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And may I add that for a Christian you have a pretty evil DP\PFP
It was actually several arguments that lasted 24 hours over three different posts. I'm done with it though. As long as my account doesn't get hacked again i'm cool.
After roughly 3 days away working/taking care of the kid, this is all I get? Amazing, but not surprising. I see you once again ignore all logic when it goes against your current, misguided, hate-filled worldview.
FYI, I've mentioned this at least a dozen times already on FS, but in case you missed it, I work 3-4 12 hour shifts per week, so if I'm not around for awhile, it's almost always because of that. I couldn't help but notice you seemed pretty eager that I gave up, so that was cute. Thanks.
I also think it's cute that you want my email/phone #. What? Don't want the entire FS population to see you for what you really are? ;)
And cut the clinging to scripture bullshit. The Bible was written by men, not God. It's not infallible. Why anyone thinks that it's a good idea to follow ideas that are immune to review and revision like say, a Law, is beyond me.
1. I am aware that you work, and have a child Matthew.
2. My first gut feeling was that you where still acting like a child and tried messing with my account, It was my brother who used another computer and logged in and did that, I apologize for accusing you.
3. I wanted your number so we wont blow up the notifications for others. If you want to debate here like the other post then lets.
4. Scripture is Christianity's second pillar, having Christ's life and death being the first. Tell me... Where do you get your arguments about christianity from? hmm? I'll wait... And keep in mind, if you were a christian you would know that Scripture was written by God through men.
5. If you are calling me hateful because you think I hate gays like you tried accusing me of in the other posts, your dead wrong. I love everyone, even you, no matter what they do or what flaws they have. I may get mad/angry at them for things but I still love them.
Ugh...you can say I'm acting like a child all you want. Fact is, if you refuse to debate like an adult, I'll treat you like a child.
Somewhat related, I keep getting the urge to ask how old you are. Then I keep realizing that it doesn't matter, there are plenty of adults in this world who still take the fantasy approach to religion.
Also, I've noticed that every time I bring up your view that gays can't be Christian, you steer waaaaay clear of it. Are you regretting that statement, perhaps? I've still never gotten a clear answer on why they can't be both. Is there something you know that the Pope himself doesn't???
So yeah, once you provide some clear answers, THEN you can question me. Debates aren't a one-way street, pal. Shit, the only reason this has gone on for days now is that you keep avoiding the 2 or 3 main points and go on tangents all fucking day. This back and forth, while it has it's moments of hilarity, is cringeworthy for the most part.
So you say you love everyone, but you don't think gays can be Christian? God let even the worst sinners repent and become Christians. Is being gay really that bad to you?
You say I use scripture like its unbendable yet what doyou use for your aguments? The Pope. Keep in mind I love pope Francis. He is the only pope lately who does what he should do and out of the kindness of his heart, not because he has to. Back to the topic, Apparently words coming directly from God doesn't matter but a human's appointed by him do. You know who else was given a job by God but still submitted to the flesh? Jonah, King Saul, Samson, Hophni and Phinehas (sons of Eli) and a list of others that would take up several replies.
I hope Francis doesn't stray from his job but still these men and women show that what you think so highly of isn't as high as you think. And what about the time that there were two popes during the great schism? Who's word would you follow?
And to d, the point of repenting is to ask for forgiveness and then stop sinning not keep doing it and asking over and over. It's like going back to a grocery store multiple times and asking for the free samples but not actually buying the food. You get the taste temporarily but it eventually leaves you and you need to go through the trouble of getting more. Why not buy it and have some at home so you can satisfy the cravings you have without constantly having to go back and resatisfy the craving? That is repenting, having your craving filled and not having to worry about it again.
He's not going to answer you, dddddddd. It's one of the few funny things he does, crank out several comments in a row avoiding the subject while he argues with himself. Now let's wait and see what bullshit he'll come up with next in order to avoid facing reality.
My current theory is that this guy is just trolling. I keep trying to poke holes in my own theory, but s/he's not giving me much to work with.
You know, I'm honestly surprised that more people haven't been showing up to comment/thumb in these threads. Everyone on FS seems to trip over themselves to show support for gays and human rights in general, but I've gotta wonder, are you people merely giving lip service (giggidy) to these topics.
And yes, I just wrote four lines of text just to lead up to that fellatio joke. Pretty generous of me, if I do say so myself. I may be a bit biased, though. But honestly, if you don't love yourself first, how can you expect others to? Like Spork always says, it's merely logical. But I know how some people have a hard time with the 'ol logicy-shmogicy.
Speaking of 24-hrs, did you guys know that there's gonna be another season of 24? Crazy right? What's even crazier is that it's only gonna be 12 hours. What's the deal with that? And what's the deal with
You mocking the amount of text needed when I reply doesn't show the maturity I expected out of a grown man with a (hopefully) steady job and a child. Come back when you realize I'm trying to have an adult conversation with you no matter how much crap you toss at me.
Hoooly cow the inter-nut is full of these types. I read some of the back and forth and I had some acute deja vu. I now know how to spot them before getting pulled into some weak assed discussion where the other guy types some madness loosely related to the subject and I try to debate back. And you know its usually some fucktard responding to a comment I posted like a week ago or longer that I thought was harmless. There was a response to my comment here recently where some genius said he was gonna bridge the gap between science and religion. Not sure what that had to do with my comment but I just ran from that like a big tittied blonde from a man in a hockey mask. P.S. thumbs down this comment. I did.
You can't up or downthumb your own comments.
I should have run from this guy, but when someone says something that ass-backwards, I get something between masochism and morbid curiosity. I mean, why bother trying to talk sense to someone who's clinging to the past like a common dingleberry to that one really long pube that keeps getting caught between your ass cheeks?
Some of their ravings can be funny in a disturbing, how-do-these-people-still-exist kind of way.
I suppose it's just Satan tricking me into loving my neighbor, not judging lest I be judged, etc using the gays as his fabulous henchmen...
What's wrong with trying to bridge science and religion? I think I know. You wouldn't have anything to argue over the internet with.
Clinging to the past? I remember the past being bloody murder between the two. I'm looking to the future.
Satan tricking you into loving your neighbor? Satan wants you to hate your neighbor, God wants you to love him. What kind of Christian are you?
Using the gays as my fabulous henchmen? How do I even do that? I wouldn't even know what to do with a henchmen. I'm a leader in three organizations and know what to do with the man power given to me but If I had a henchmen I would give him the least amount of work and repeat "thank you" every time he turns because I'm awkward that way. I give people who work for a cause greater than me orders. I don't like giving orders to people who work for me.
I will also be gone for a weekend retreat out in centerville, TX.
P.s. You still have not answered my questions about scripture and the pope.
That was more sad than hilarious. Are you so delusional that you can't tell joke from argument?
You started to get funny again with that last part, since it's coming from someone with no actual response to ANY points I've made. Sadly, we won't know where that leads until you get back from your little cult get-together.
I can't tell joke from argument when you're talking because everything you have said is a joke about me or an insult. I have made responses to your "points" but you have not responded to those. And you know, I'm done with you thinking that your witty by insulting me and trying to make me angry at you, it's not going to happen. If your next comment is not the answer to my questions about the scripture and the pope then you can call this debate closed.
Have you not noticed that's it's YOU quoting scripture in that other dumbass post???
Not to mention you ignore LOGIC, don't seem to have an argument, and are perfectly happy just doing the rubber/glue bullshit.
Just...fuck off already. I've more of my daily comments on you than you deserve.
I believe Gay marriage should be legalized.
I believe you can't be Gay and christian at the same time. You do.
You know what? If you don't want to be insulted, stop acting so face-palmingly ignorant all the time.
In case you're too busy playing your dumbass xbox and having "adrenaline" surges to reread everything, I'll throw you another one.
I've noticed you talk about gays not being able to be Christian because being gay is a sin. Guess what all Christians do? Don't worry, I'll wait...
...fucking judgemental twit.
Edit: To the downthumbers, I don't believe being gay is a sin, if there was any confusion. I was merely trying to state empty's argument as I understand it. Also, you have an actual response to my question, empty, now'd be the time. Your 3rd point below doesn't actually qualify, but nice try.
1. The only "solid" arguments you have made are just opinion of what you think God says about homosexuality and you calling me retarded and saying I act like a martyr after giving you evidence in the scripture (which you say doesn't matter, It does. We can argue that too)
2. Attack on Titan tribute game is a pc game, and the adrenaline was me trying to stay awake while being pissed off while arguing with you.
3. I know chrstians sin more than you could ever know but that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about homosexuality. I would gladly push your chair in for you so we have a conversation but I need to leave in an hour so I need to get ready.
4. At any point you feel that we can stop blowing up people's notifications in this post like we did the other give me your email. From there we can exchange phone numbers.
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And may I add that for a Christian you have a pretty evil DP\PFP
FYI, I've mentioned this at least a dozen times already on FS, but in case you missed it, I work 3-4 12 hour shifts per week, so if I'm not around for awhile, it's almost always because of that. I couldn't help but notice you seemed pretty eager that I gave up, so that was cute. Thanks.
I also think it's cute that you want my email/phone #. What? Don't want the entire FS population to see you for what you really are? ;)
And cut the clinging to scripture bullshit. The Bible was written by men, not God. It's not infallible. Why anyone thinks that it's a good idea to follow ideas that are immune to review and revision like say, a Law, is beyond me.
2. My first gut feeling was that you where still acting like a child and tried messing with my account, It was my brother who used another computer and logged in and did that, I apologize for accusing you.
3. I wanted your number so we wont blow up the notifications for others. If you want to debate here like the other post then lets.
4. Scripture is Christianity's second pillar, having Christ's life and death being the first. Tell me... Where do you get your arguments about christianity from? hmm? I'll wait... And keep in mind, if you were a christian you would know that Scripture was written by God through men.
5. If you are calling me hateful because you think I hate gays like you tried accusing me of in the other posts, your dead wrong. I love everyone, even you, no matter what they do or what flaws they have. I may get mad/angry at them for things but I still love them.
Somewhat related, I keep getting the urge to ask how old you are. Then I keep realizing that it doesn't matter, there are plenty of adults in this world who still take the fantasy approach to religion.
Also, I've noticed that every time I bring up your view that gays can't be Christian, you steer waaaaay clear of it. Are you regretting that statement, perhaps? I've still never gotten a clear answer on why they can't be both. Is there something you know that the Pope himself doesn't???
So yeah, once you provide some clear answers, THEN you can question me. Debates aren't a one-way street, pal. Shit, the only reason this has gone on for days now is that you keep avoiding the 2 or 3 main points and go on tangents all fucking day. This back and forth, while it has it's moments of hilarity, is cringeworthy for the most part.
And matthew why are you avoiding the questions?
Btw I will not be on for a 24-hr period tomorrow.
You know, I'm honestly surprised that more people haven't been showing up to comment/thumb in these threads. Everyone on FS seems to trip over themselves to show support for gays and human rights in general, but I've gotta wonder, are you people merely giving lip service (giggidy) to these topics.
And yes, I just wrote four lines of text just to lead up to that fellatio joke. Pretty generous of me, if I do say so myself. I may be a bit biased, though. But honestly, if you don't love yourself first, how can you expect others to? Like Spork always says, it's merely logical. But I know how some people have a hard time with the 'ol logicy-shmogicy.
Speaking of 24-hrs, did you guys know that there's gonna be another season of 24? Crazy right? What's even crazier is that it's only gonna be 12 hours. What's the deal with that? And what's the deal with
If you're trolling, and I'm pretty sure you are, that was a delight.
Classic void.
I should have run from this guy, but when someone says something that ass-backwards, I get something between masochism and morbid curiosity. I mean, why bother trying to talk sense to someone who's clinging to the past like a common dingleberry to that one really long pube that keeps getting caught between your ass cheeks?
Some of their ravings can be funny in a disturbing, how-do-these-people-still-exist kind of way.
I suppose it's just Satan tricking me into loving my neighbor, not judging lest I be judged, etc using the gays as his fabulous henchmen...
Clinging to the past? I remember the past being bloody murder between the two. I'm looking to the future.
Satan tricking you into loving your neighbor? Satan wants you to hate your neighbor, God wants you to love him. What kind of Christian are you?
Using the gays as my fabulous henchmen? How do I even do that? I wouldn't even know what to do with a henchmen. I'm a leader in three organizations and know what to do with the man power given to me but If I had a henchmen I would give him the least amount of work and repeat "thank you" every time he turns because I'm awkward that way. I give people who work for a cause greater than me orders. I don't like giving orders to people who work for me.
I will also be gone for a weekend retreat out in centerville, TX.
P.s. You still have not answered my questions about scripture and the pope.
You started to get funny again with that last part, since it's coming from someone with no actual response to ANY points I've made. Sadly, we won't know where that leads until you get back from your little cult get-together.