This is how society sees domestic abuse

What about pets!

What about ponies?

what about digimon monsters

Philosophic, equality doesn't mean that everyone gets treated exactly the same regardless of individual differences. It means that everyone is given a fair chance regardless of gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, family status, etc. Just because you're pessimistic, doesn't mean that we should stop working to overcome systematic barriers.

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So what you're looking for is along the same lines of if I want to become a male model in my current state and be in Calvin Klein or whatever I have the same chance as Channing Tatum? What about taxes? Adults get breaks in taxes for marriage and/or having children. Should taxes be the same for everyone? It'd be equal. It's like this morning going to work. I went to a gas station to get some stuff and going to the register I saw a woman cut in line infront of multiple people, demand cigarettes. The clerk refused and asked her to go to the back of the line. She refused claiming he refused service because of her race (hispanic) and went into a rant about white people. Now how fair is that? She seperated herself from others just the same as the feminist movement. Its never been an issue until someone brings it up as an issue. You're seperating yourselves from other people to support equality? Its an oxymoron to the fullest extent.

Philosophic, what on earth are you on about? You missed the point entirely. Go back and read my post again, and come back when you understand it.

And you've missed what I've said. You and I will never be able to agree we might as well drop it now before this goes on forever.

@philosophic- what ricepudding said was a "fair chance" not the same chance, there's difference. Also, the lady you were referring to at the gas station was just an asshole, and not relevant to the topic.

Philosophic, here's a more appropriate analogy about equality. Say that there are two men who both want to be models. They are both gorgeous and have equivalent experience. One of the men doesn't get hired because the agent doesn't like that he's Jewish. Laws are then enacted which prevent discrimination based on religion. The next job interview is successful. Do you see how that's different from an ugly man and an attractive man competing for the job? You're focusing on individual differences, when equality happens at a group level.

Their are laws against that yes but to give you another example: my grandparents run a hotel in my home town and one of the tenants is a man named Dennis. Dennis was in a motorcycle accident that diminished his self worth and his looks. He has been unemployed due to his accident and has been looking for a job. My grandfather has allowed him to work for his rent so that he still can look for a job. He applied to a factory job and they turned him down. My grandfather wondering why they turned him down asked the interviewer. The interviewer told him that he wasn't hired because he couldn't use a tape measure. Now he helped my grandfather for months and I've worked alongside him and he can measure better than I can and knows more about things than my Grandfather at time. He wasn't hired because of his looks. They can give excuses as to why they aren't hired and never say the full reason.

Philosophic, ugly people are not a defined marginalized group. That's too subjective. I'm sorry that the guy wasn't hired, but it still has nothing to do with social justice. It's true that sometimes employers cheat by making other excuses. It's still better than nothing.

hey rice puddingi didnt meant to offend you just a little disappointed

What? I'm a little confused. Have we talked before? We can still be bros.

More like the offended scientist. I'm a guy.

"Scientist", right.
It is at the same spot, because it says they set the camera there. And you can see there's different people. Even there, laying.

Another area would mean adding another variable, Sir Failed Scientist.

Guys can be feminists as well, because feminism is about the fair and just treatment of both sexes. However, though it started out as a women's rights movement (hence the female oriented name), that aimed for this noble goal, it has since deteriorated into irrational complaints about imaginary problems and delusions, and no longer aims to reach its original goals.

We don't know the details of the experiment. However I know, (and I realize its wrong) that I would probably act differently if I saw a guy slapping a girl vs. a girl slapping a guy.