It would make a lot more sense, wouldn't it?
10 years ago by brokenlight · 3068 Likes · 15 comments · Popular
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· 10 years ago
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Maybe it's partly to help with word of mouth. An English speaker could see this and be like "Hey, Henry speaks Mandarin and he's looking for a job. I'd better pass this along to him."
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guest
· 10 years ago
Damn it Henry.
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guydude
· 8 years ago
That's what I was going to say
metalman
· 10 years ago
Fluency typically relates to speach rather than writting. I know many Mexicans who moved to the US early in life who can speak fluent Spanish bu can't read or write it.
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guest
· 10 years ago
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jillaroo
· 10 years ago
It's bullshit in Australia that there are all these anti-racist, anti-discriminatory, anti-bullying laws so everyone has an opportunity to be employed, yet for some reason people can get away with advertising that you have to speak Mandarin. You're in a country where the national language is English, yet they think it's okay to demand a different language.
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metalman
· 10 years ago
It's to promote foreign trade and open up to the foreign markets.
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jillaroo
· 10 years ago
No, I don't buy that. If people have come to an English speaking country, and are living here as a citizen, then the people the employ should not be required to speak any other language than English. That is blatant discrimination. Bakeries, restaurants etc do not have foreign markets. Fair enough supply writing on menus or pamphlets that's in a different language for customers that are visiting, but if you live in Australia you're not supposed to discriminate on race, culture etc. Put it this way, if an English speaker said they wouldn't employ an Asian because they speak more than just one language, oh boy they'd get shut down real fast, and everyone would be saying how racist Australians are.
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metalman
· 10 years ago
You have no idea how stupid that sounded. People of all nations and the world are free to live in whatever free nation/country they please. This will mix cultures and languages. Now most countries around the world learn the national language and English in schools yes but many prefer to speak in their native language. The United States has no national religion, no national language, and etc. whereas I don't know anything about Australia but I can guarantee you should be free to learn whatever language you need. Now to your asian with multiple languages thing. What fucking international employer would say no to a bilingual person? None.
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jillaroo
· 10 years ago
Sure, they are free to come to Australia if they'd like. What they're not free to do is discriminate based on the fact that someone wasn't lucky enough to be born into a bilingual family. People should be free to be employed at whichever store they apply for (as long as their attitude and skills are appropriate, because that's something you can change). Blocking English-only speakers (as is to be expected seeing as it's our official language) is racist and discriminatory.
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metalman
· 10 years ago
God dammit you're a dense fuck aren't you? This has nothing to do with stores and local business'. You don't have to live in a bilingual family in order to learn a second language.
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· 10 years ago
Hey Jillaroo, I was curious about your argument, so I spoke to a constitutional lawyer who knows Australian law. It's not discrimination to require bilingualism for two reasons. First of all, language itself is not a protected/discrimination area. Secondly, companies are allowed to exclude certain groups or individuals if they have bona fide reasons. For example, is usually discrimination to not hire a blind person, but it's fine if the job in question is for a pilot! Similarly, in the case of language requirements, the job is to serve a certain community. Eployees who don't speak the community language would not be able to do their job properly. That's why it's not discrimination. Besides, as a native English speaker, you would already have far more advantages than an English language learner. Why take away their advantages in the few areas?
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metalman
· 10 years ago
I feel as if jillaroo is someone who just hears another person speaking another language and automatically thinks that they're talking about them.
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guest
· 10 years ago
Its not discrimination if there is a legitimate reason for wanting a different language. If you are hiring a guy that is going to head the expansion for your company in China, of course you are going to want somebody that speaks the language. If you live in an area that has a large amount of people that speak a different language (Such as near the Mexican border in the US, or eastern Canada) you might want your salesman, cashier, server, etc. to be able to speak both languages. The amount of importance for the language determines how mandatory it is. (less mandatory that a lower paid server speaks 2 languages, very mandatory that your head of foreign development can)
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sephoria223
· 10 years ago
Maybe because they want people both fluent in English and Mandarin?