The simple solution
Women try to kill themselves more often, but men are better at it.
Not meant to be a sexist joke either. Women tend to attempt suicide in ways that avoid mutilating their faces, so they will try to OD or something like that. This leaves room for error, the chance that they'll mis-dose and survive, or people finding them in time to save them. Men, on the other hand, tend to just take a bullet to the head. There's no coming back from that one folks
You actually can survive a bullet to the head. You just won't live a normal life after. I knew a guy though that killed himself by sitting in he garage with the car on and a tube from the exhaust into the window
Baughman is actually right, I learned in a psychology course that men typically use more of a brutal way to suicide than females, resulting in more successful attempts.
I learned on sociology that women tend to attempt suicide in a method such as overdose because they also think about who has to clean up the mess if she succeeds.
I have always thought of ODing on pills but I consider the factor that it wouldn't work and I would just end up in the hospital. A quick and painless death is what I would prefer
Jumping in front of a train or bus is horrible. Thats like provoking a police officer to shoot you. Doing it last second so they have no time to brake doesn't make it better. You are forcing another human being to kill for you.
Pills make you sick. Bleach seriously fucks you up if you survive it. Hanging can hurt your neck, back, and nerves if you do it wrong. Miss your one shot with the gun, you're a vegetable the rest of your life. Cut wrong and you're just admitted to the hospital. Jumping in front of a train or car may only not kill you but traumatises others. The car in the garage may not be fatal and just fuck up your lungs. Jumping from a building, if it doesn't kill you, will render you handicapped for the rest of your life.
I think it's generally more acceptable in society for women to talk about their emotions. We are raised in an environment where it's encouraged for us to contemplate our feelings and voice them to friends, parents etc. while little boys have just as many sad, angry and depressed emotions but they are not encouraged to talk about it with their friends. Boys "aren't supposed to" call up their best friend at midnight sobbing about a lost loved one that's considered "feminine behavior". Should talking about emotions be considered just for women and girls when we all experience the similar hardships and depressions?
I'll be perfectly honest I've suffered from depression my whole life due to many things that hace occured. I have had conversations with men, women, boys, and girls on this subject. I've come to this conclusion. The societal idea of men need to be strong so they can't express their concerns is half right. Me personally if someone were to ask whats wrong I'd te you but its the lack of people asking and a lack of caring. It's not jusy men who think men should be strong but its the societies idea of men are just always strong. I'm open to share emotions, thoughts, and other things but like many others with depression we want to defer the conversations away from ourselves asap.
The clear problem is that men are not seeking treatment for their depression. I think there are a lot of factors at play that acount for this. Like what soullesspegasus and 15jbaughman said. Another is that women more commonly see physician regularly, which leads to more opportunities to have depression treated. Women have to see a doctor at least once a year for most forms of birth control. Typically, the mother is the in who takes her children in for well child or sick doctors visits, also giving her more face time with a physician then the father. Women also typicaly get a lot of monitoring of their emotional state durring and after pregnancy (post-partum depression). This also leads to a more extensive medical history for women over men when both seek treatment for depression, and means that women are more likely to seek medical treatment in the first place, because they have a regular doctor or are more comfortable being a patient.
But guys aren't getting noticed for it as much. I think they need more help then girls do. Girls always let out their feelings so its always known. People can talk to them about it easier. But guys don't mention if they're depressed. They deal with it until it becomes to much for them and try end it. I think guys should be getting more help/attention from it. People need to be more aware of problems that aren't always put out there such as this
It never said nor implied that we should forget that girls are depressed or suicidal it said that men don't talk about the problems they're having and it leads to so much pent up stress they kill themselves. Women are more open to talk about their problems whereas men bottle it up. This has nothing to do with giving women less attention. It's saying we should give men more attention to their problems.
Women respond more to placebo antidepressants. These responders either have mild or no actual depression in the first place. Because they have convinced themselves they are depressed, they are more likely to be "cured" by the placebo. Women are also more likely to "improve" with psychotherapies (e.g. CBT). However CBT is completely ineffective in severe depression. This tells us that women are technically using the wrong word to define how they feel; many are not technically depressed, they just want someone to feel sorry for them and someone to talk to. On the other hand, Severely depressed people never respond to placebo antidepressants. Severely depressed people have a massively increased risk of suicide. The reason the numbers don't add up, is because the numbers are wrong. If the severity of depression was recategorised into mild dysthmia, moderate dysthmia or true depression (i.e. severe depression), then the number of people who were depressed would sway heavily in favour
of men. Some estimates put the gender ratio split of severe depression at around 90% male-10% female. Depending on age, men are 5 to 10 times more likely to commit suicide. Of men and women who commit suicide, the use of firearms is identical in proportion, so the difference in suicide rates cannot be explained by gender preference for different methods (sub-lethal method preference). The suicide split difference is most likely entirely proportional to rates of depression i.e. more men commit suicide because more men are truly, severely depressed. This is obviously not a popular finding. Men and women both deserve treatment, however the current consensus that women experience depression more commonly is directly linked to men's poor treatment rates. If you know a man that you suspect is truly depressed, you should do everything in your power to encourage him to get help. This may even involve driving him to the doctor, picking up his prescription and making sure he takes it.
A simple internet search refutes basically all your statistics and "facts". Like how you say that both men and women use firearms equally, when 73% of firearm suicides are male.
Your claiming that most women being treated for depression, are not actually depressed, that women don't know what depression is. You claim that men are more often "truly depressed". Im guessing you have no experience in mental health. And im actually thinking most of your thinking is based off stereotypes and a touch of male superiority. I suggest you check out badscience.net to help with determining if research and data are real, or are actually made up "facts" to support an agenda.
What I see from this: Better information, so we can more effectively address both depression and suicide by knowing how people tend to act.
What many others apparently see: Men are better than women / Women are better than men.
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WTF?
If you had read beyond my first couple sentences, you would have seen the logic behind my reasoning. Men tend to use guns, whereas women tend to avoid mutilating their bodies so they try something like overdosing. This leaves the chance that they will mis-dose, survive, or that somebody will find them in time to save them. A simple discussion of suicidal tactics, and the first thing your mind sees (or maybe wants to see?) is sexism
Women try to kill themselves more often, but men are better at it.
Not meant to be a sexist joke either. Women tend to attempt suicide in ways that avoid mutilating their faces, so they will try to OD or something like that. This leaves room for error, the chance that they'll mis-dose and survive, or people finding them in time to save them. Men, on the other hand, tend to just take a bullet to the head. There's no coming back from that one folks
Your claiming that most women being treated for depression, are not actually depressed, that women don't know what depression is. You claim that men are more often "truly depressed". Im guessing you have no experience in mental health. And im actually thinking most of your thinking is based off stereotypes and a touch of male superiority. I suggest you check out badscience.net to help with determining if research and data are real, or are actually made up "facts" to support an agenda.
What many others apparently see: Men are better than women / Women are better than men.
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WTF?