Honestly, you could be the sweetest person on the planet in every other aspect but if you're a homophobe there is always going to be a part if me that doesn't like you. I'm just instantly going to be put out.
You all need to calm down, some people are gay, some people aren't, and some people are gay Christians, the only way this would matter is if you were killed on site for being gay, but that doesn't happen, GET OVER IT, ITS LIFE.
Are you kidding, people are killed daily because of being homosexual. There are places where its against the law and if you are found out they execute you.
If the person also has gay sex, that's of course an entirely different matter. Apart from that the pope believes that violence is no solution, but when someone insults his mother, he will punch him. And he thinks beating your children is okay, as long as they keep your dignity. This guy is an improvement on his predecessors, but he is not the holy person especially the internet tries to see in him.
This is why I'm not a fan of religion. I know plenty of good can be done by it and some people practice it beautifully, but then there's stuff like this.
Are you aware that you it doesn't mean you can have same sex relationship? It's more like: if you abandon your evil gay ways (meaning: live against your nature), you're kinda ok. What's so cool about that?
Sorry for the rant.
well you know about it so you can educate me. and let me explain it . homosexuality is unnatural and it is. and i feel totally okay if two guys or girls love each other and want to spend time with each other they could be buddies or bffs or anything but when they start sticking their dicks into one another ass and start living their whole life like that. that's what bothers me. and don't call it natural because some specific set of minds or media calling it so. leave the wildlife aside if it was natural there would be gays all over the africa specially african native tribes because they are more nearer to nature than us. and considering wild life show me any examples any animal doing with the same sex. you know except humans every animal/creature do mating for the sole purpose of breeding so how could it be possible. don't blame nature for your inhuman acts.
Normally I wouldn't bother with ignorance of this magnitude (mainly because drama annoys me) but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
500 (known) species of animals exhibit some homosexual behavior. So much for 'unnatural' huh.
yeah i already checked all that stuff. i am more concerned about how we humans are doing it. like staying gays for whole life and sticking dicks in each others ass for whole life those are just random acts not a lifestyle. and if we say that animals are doing it so we should also do it . then in nature animals kill other animals the dominant rule the group then why are not those things cool. ???
Sooo... You came up with the 'it's unnatural' argument. Now that we've proven that being gay is in fact natural, you suddenly start talking about murder? What's got murder to do with this? Stick to the topic, please.
because you are giving me wildlife examples so i am taking other examples from wildlife thats why ... i am sticked to the point. and in nature polygamy is also there why are those things not acceptable then?
@holirific yes, we did that because you asked for it! You literally asked for 'wildlife examples'. And yes, all the things you said are natural as well. So saying it's natural doesn't really mean a thing, I am well aware of that. But you know what? Being gay is, above all, something human. It is something a part of our population has to deal with. Why can't you understand that not everyone is attracted to the same thing? They can't help it. They didn't ask for it. And they sure as hell don't deserve being compared to murderers.
no i don' think its not something they can't help its a lie if it was a natural phenomenon then there should be gays in native tribes of africa because they are not under any any influence of religion (as we blame religion for it ) or culture. WE ALL ARE PRODUCTS OF OUR SURROUNDINGS thats a subtle fact you don't see any much of gays in northern or southern hemispheres and not even in countries which are a little more concerned about their religion then tell me why is nature is all messed up in some of the liberal countries and why it is not a global thing. its just psychological .. and i don't say that guys don't feel love for guys or girls for girls i already mentioned that my point is adopting a life style and claiming it is okay when it is not.
@holirific fine, I'll even log in for you. But damn! Are you narrow-minded. No one knows what the reason is that some people are gay. But it is definitely not something they choose. I've seen it. One of my best friends is gay. And she tried to kill herself when she found out. Can you imagine what it's like when you are just a teenager and you discover that there is something about you that sets you apart from everyone else? When all you really want is to be the same. Damnit, have you ever been in love with someone? You clearly haven't, otherwise you would know that falling in love has nothing to do with your 'lifestyle'. YOU CANNOT CHOOSE WHO YOU LOVE. There, I even hit caps lock for you. But let me tell you this: it is a global thing. Most cultures are not okay with it, that's all. Most cultures kill people for being gay. Most gays do not come out of the closet because it'll set them apart. It'll get them kicked out of their society. It'll eventually get them killed.
seriously its a natural thing thing and yet they found out .. isn't it ironic ... and i am saying again and again that i didn't say that two guys/girls cannot love each other why are you still sticked to that point just read my all comments again specially first one. and don't say that most cultures don't let it happen only some religious based cultures are against it that much ... i have asked you about native africans, people living on hemishperes who have no outer influence and no rules.
and i am not narrow minded i think its not my decision to judge gay people what ever floats you boat and and what ever makes you feel comfortable go for it. but facts are facts ... if you adopt one thing and call it natural then also accept other. and stop ranting about it
my emotions have nothing to do with it. you think that i haven't lived a life or i haven't loved then thats totally wrong i am a guy and i have felt love both for guys and girls i don't deny it .. even now a days the person i like the most is my buddy who is a guy and i have no girlfriend. so what do you suggest i should start fucking him. because thats what love is all about, fucking each other. if you think so then re evaluate your standards of love. love doesn't require any physical relation. specifically if its not normal.
... What are you even trying to say? I never said that love is all about fucking each other senseless. YOU keep talking about 'dicks up each others ass'. And there is no such thing as a society without rules. That's not how people work. Hell, even being 'normal' is nothing BUT a rule. But I'm seriously tired of you. Yeah, you keep saying the same thing. But you're not using valid arguments. 'It's not normal!' isn't an argument. That's something your gut says. Something society told you. But you don't seem to understand, and I'm seriously done with this.
then whats the point of gay life style you are taking turn now. by society with rules i meant such as religious rules likes a being gay is a sin. i don't think they have such rules. what are you people even .. if i bring something other to your concern you stay stick to the point and now this WTF. yeah my guts say this to me and guts are pretty natural. no society is actually telling you this now that being gay is okay and its love. you are done because you can't stand your point anymore.
wow. just... wow. O.o
Native African tribes are full of religion. Most of them even believe in magic? You won't find much about their religion, though. Because every tribe has their own.
But, let me get your 'facts' straight. First, you say being gay is not natural. By saying this, you are implying that we should be 'natural'. We then prove to you that being gay is, in fact, natural. You then continue saying that murder is also natural, by which you say that we shouldn't be natural? You then continue blaming society for accepting gays and telling me that i've been 'brainwashed', so to say. I then tell you that being gay is not a choice. I've seen people nearly kill themselves because they didn't want to be gay. So if anything, they didn't choose to be gay and a lot of people still feel the need to tell them they are not 'doing the right thing'. Society does still not totally accept these people. And that is a shame.
seriously this is how you are comprehending my comments ???
they are full of religion but you can't find out about their religion. *ironic*
no i said if you insist on gay being natural then killing of others is also natural and we should also legalize that in our society to be natural. and polygamy and incest and many things like that.
no they try to kill themselves because they were told if you love someone you should get in physical relations with him/her which is surely not acceptable and thats the actual flaw here. and society does not totally accept that because it was not there in the first place but brought in by the media and porn industry.
Wow... that is one big conspiracy theory you've got there. I'll leave you alone with that one. That is just ... pretty insane O.o
And you will not find anything about African religion, because they don't know what internet is! They do not write things down! All I know about their religion is what I got from the news. But if you really think that it's all the media's fault, you won't buy that either, do you?
yeah everything is conspiracy.
*matter of perspective*
and i ask you, bring in any link of such kind from internet, news or what ever. specifically related to gay ship.
Anddd... you still haven't told me exactly why it isn't acceptable to have physical relations with one another. Yeah, because 'it's not natural', 'it's not normal', 'society doesn't want it' and 'your gut doesn't like it'. Really?
What I don't understand is why people can't just mind their own business, why does two men or women sharing a relationship have any affect on somebody else? If they are doing no direct harm to you besides offending you because you can't mind your own business (personal issues) shrug it off. Unless they pin you to the ground and start having wild sex on your face (which from a legal standpoint would be assault among other things) what they do with themselves is a non-issue especially in their own homes.
@musicsavedmysoul> you think that those things (nature, society) doesn't matter that much then i wonder what else does.
and another point i wan to make is being human is being social and this (homosexuality) is against social.
you tell me what makes it acceptable?
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@whospikedthepunchyeah you think its better that everybody mind their own business because thats what make us more human.
and in your opinion the only harm/ effect one can do to other is physical and there is no psychological and behavioral and spiritual level of pain *materialism*
I know exactly how much emotional damage can be done to a person by others (ever had a parent look at you and say 'you're the worst piece of garbage I've ever seen I hope you die in the ditch like a filthy animal') the best thing that could ever happen in this world is for people to just grow up, drop their useless prejudices and live treating others how they themselves want treated, I don't want to be killed by someone just because they feel that my beliefs are wrong, I don't want to be called stupid because I have issues hearing and speaking, I can only assume that no one else does either! By the way I'm straight but don't judge others by their orientation as I feel it's none of my concern my best friend came out to me before his father and mother drove him to suicide with their constant hounding on him about going to hell and all that steaming cow crap. His note read 'you (his parents) always said I was going to hell for my sins well I was already in hell because of you!
i am not even in the favor of killing humans and i never said that you are getting sentimental and may be because you have seen worse. my very first comment reads that "who am i to judge" i would also never want a person to be killed because of any above mentioned reasons
i am against the trend which is prevailing in our society and who knows what is worse for them. i don't know which part of growing you are talking about when we even can't talk like real matures. from the first comment i got hate for my point of view which does not clearly say any violent or racial or sexist things and not even directed to any human being either gays or straight.
and let these be my last words
humans have done such things before but i never seen a society which has flourished to be perfect till now. i am only seeing that more people are doing suicides, more judgements are being made and more people suffer day by day
and to homosexuality i would say today you support it because it looks cool and its makes you more open minded and less judgmental but mark my words a day will come when there will be no real families anymore. you will know what my point was and then you will understand.
till then god bless you
i never wanted to offend anyone of you
OK i truly don't understand. You say homosexuality is unnatural but are you therefore saying anything unnatural is bad (which would mean we can't ever progress with technology) and that homosexuality is unnatural because, what? People can't have children? In which case couples who can't have children because of medical reasons who stay together are being 'unnatural'? You say we support homosexuality just to 'look cool'. No, trust me a lot of people probably don't. If there came a day where incest became widely accepted because 'love is love' then I wouldn't accept it like I would homosexuality. Why? Because that actually causes damage to the child born. Homosexuality does none of that. And it really depends what you mean by 'real families'. Do you mean families who are all biologically related or people who live together and play the role of families and care and love each other like a family would, despite there being no blood relations? Because then you're sort of against adoption.
And years ago people would inbreed often with cousins to keep their 'real family'. I don't see many people complaining how we're all suffering since we're not still following through with that
Holirific you are a moron, Ive seen your comments before and they all relate to religion, you hide behind your "faith' and 'Belief' touting them as knowledge when all you are is ignorant and stubborn. Go do some research yourself and improve your intellect rather than spouting religious rhetoric on social media as a means to validate your small mindedness. There is no learning with you just repetitive lies and religious jargon. You are boring, willful, and worst of all, too full of pride to take consideration of others. You give religion a bad name.
Sorry for the rant.
500 (known) species of animals exhibit some homosexual behavior. So much for 'unnatural' huh.
and i am not narrow minded i think its not my decision to judge gay people what ever floats you boat and and what ever makes you feel comfortable go for it. but facts are facts ... if you adopt one thing and call it natural then also accept other. and stop ranting about it
Native African tribes are full of religion. Most of them even believe in magic? You won't find much about their religion, though. Because every tribe has their own.
But, let me get your 'facts' straight. First, you say being gay is not natural. By saying this, you are implying that we should be 'natural'. We then prove to you that being gay is, in fact, natural. You then continue saying that murder is also natural, by which you say that we shouldn't be natural? You then continue blaming society for accepting gays and telling me that i've been 'brainwashed', so to say. I then tell you that being gay is not a choice. I've seen people nearly kill themselves because they didn't want to be gay. So if anything, they didn't choose to be gay and a lot of people still feel the need to tell them they are not 'doing the right thing'. Society does still not totally accept these people. And that is a shame.
they are full of religion but you can't find out about their religion. *ironic*
no i said if you insist on gay being natural then killing of others is also natural and we should also legalize that in our society to be natural. and polygamy and incest and many things like that.
no they try to kill themselves because they were told if you love someone you should get in physical relations with him/her which is surely not acceptable and thats the actual flaw here. and society does not totally accept that because it was not there in the first place but brought in by the media and porn industry.
And you will not find anything about African religion, because they don't know what internet is! They do not write things down! All I know about their religion is what I got from the news. But if you really think that it's all the media's fault, you won't buy that either, do you?
*matter of perspective*
and i ask you, bring in any link of such kind from internet, news or what ever. specifically related to gay ship.
and another point i wan to make is being human is being social and this (homosexuality) is against social.
you tell me what makes it acceptable?
.
.
@whospikedthepunchyeah you think its better that everybody mind their own business because thats what make us more human.
and in your opinion the only harm/ effect one can do to other is physical and there is no psychological and behavioral and spiritual level of pain *materialism*
i am against the trend which is prevailing in our society and who knows what is worse for them. i don't know which part of growing you are talking about when we even can't talk like real matures. from the first comment i got hate for my point of view which does not clearly say any violent or racial or sexist things and not even directed to any human being either gays or straight.
and let these be my last words
humans have done such things before but i never seen a society which has flourished to be perfect till now. i am only seeing that more people are doing suicides, more judgements are being made and more people suffer day by day
till then god bless you
i never wanted to offend anyone of you
https://books.google.com.pk/books?id=8D--TmX2sqsC&pg=PA85&lpg=PA85&dq=animals+incest++sexual+behaviors&source=bl&ots=h6ATj8Ppn5&sig=5QCDhrgBTekFAcLnPKG30eWHxug&hl=en&sa=X&ei=n-nwVKLoMorSaI_2gIAO&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=animals%20incest%20%20sexual%20behaviors&f=false
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081210082354AAr1mg8