This is your opinion, allow me to please respectfully speak mine:
I, as a Christian, do not support gay marriage. If you're nice to me, I'll be nice to you. I don't care about your sexual orientation if you're a kind person. I am not judging you nor am I condemning you to Hell. But gay marriage is not something I support and gay people have to be okay with that, too.
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Because realize that stereotyping and name-calling those of us who express what we believe in is exactly what you don't want to you. We have a right to speak what we believe, just like you. Thank you for understanding.
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· 9 years ago
Very respectful way to express your opinion, bravo~!
While I respect your views and mine is a neutral standpoint (I don't see any issues with people wanting to be in a happy consenting relationship regardless of gender) I really can't see how people's personal lives are a religious matter other than between them and their god(s) (don't hate on me but my beliefs are an amalgam of several others) and from a strictly legal standpoint certain 'protections' that normally apply to married couples (insurance, wills, bank accounts, so on) couldn't be procured before for same sex couples because of the marriage issue which in the strictest sense is discriminatory. So technically speaking while there is is a religious aspect of marriage there is an equal legal aspect that can't be ignored without voiding all marriages and rendering all the joint bank accounts and other items equally void!
Frame 1: Duly noted, I guess.
Frame 2: It doesn't really matter whether it jives with you, as long as it jives with God.
Frame 3: Which one of those motherfuckers talked to God and decided any of their beliefs? That's a dumb fucking question.
I kinda see garlog's point (despite his unusual method of expressing it).
People keep asking the religious questions like "who talked to God and He told them homosexuality is a sin?" But the same questions can be asked to homosexuals. Who amongst the gays has spoken to God and He's told them it's okay? The only difference is the religious have an answer to this, that God does speak specifically in the Bible that homosexuality is forbidden.
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I'm not homophobic so don't go bashing on me, I'm just trying to make you see both sides: the religious get just as much crap for standing up in what they believe in, too. If we want equality, we have to respect both sides. Peace~!
I do respect both sides but I'm also looking at it from a legal standpoint too, why should only a man and women reap the legal benefits of marriage? I also know a few homosexual people who attend churches and are accepted as they are, and I also read about a person who was hounded so badly by his church that he walked in one day and splattered his brains all over the place! As I see the whole picture I see a huge load of hypocrisy on all sides. I see people who by the very teachings of the religion they choose to live by should be accepting and welcoming of all regardless of their 'sins' and yet are acting as judge/jury/executioner contrary to that.
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· 9 years ago
Yes, of course. I completely agree with you; both sides have their ups and downs. I guess this is just how as we, humans, are -- even after thousands of years of evolution and progress, we still cannot learn to accept and understand one another as a whole. Nor can we learn compromise. We are and always have been too stubborn and selfish to move forward.
"why should only a man and women reap the legal benefits of marriage?"
This point is easily rebuked by the existence of common law and civil unions.
"I see a huge load of hypocrisy on all sides"
Unless those examples both happened at the same church it isn't hypocrisy. There are many different churches with different beliefs and interpretations of their holy texts.
"I see people who by the very teachings of the religion they choose to live by should be accepting and welcoming of all regardless of their 'sins' and yet are acting as judge/jury/executioner contrary to that."
Individuals themselves also have many different interpretations of their faith.
Common law and civil unions where not recognized in all 50 states you could be 'married' in one state but cross an invisible border and your just two people who live together. If a religion flies the 'flag' of a Christian faith and read the bible regardless of the version they have the same rules. For the record I don't know the faith of the suicide church (from the looks of some of the picture I saw I want to say catholic) but the other two were different Christian faiths (baptist and seventh day respectfully)
"Common law and civil unions where not recognized in all 50 states you could be 'married' in one state but cross an invisible border and your just two people who live together."
The point is that there are people who have those legal benefits and are not married. Those issues are not one and the same.
"If a religion flies the 'flag' of a Christian faith and read the bible regardless of the version they have the same rules."
The whole point of all the different kinds of churches is that there are things they interpret differently.
"Which one of these " people" talked to God and said same-sex marriage was not OK?" Ummm let's see some guy named Moses did in a little book called Leviticus....
I, as a Christian, do not support gay marriage. If you're nice to me, I'll be nice to you. I don't care about your sexual orientation if you're a kind person. I am not judging you nor am I condemning you to Hell. But gay marriage is not something I support and gay people have to be okay with that, too.
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Because realize that stereotyping and name-calling those of us who express what we believe in is exactly what you don't want to you. We have a right to speak what we believe, just like you. Thank you for understanding.
Frame 2: It doesn't really matter whether it jives with you, as long as it jives with God.
Frame 3: Which one of those motherfuckers talked to God and decided any of their beliefs? That's a dumb fucking question.
People keep asking the religious questions like "who talked to God and He told them homosexuality is a sin?" But the same questions can be asked to homosexuals. Who amongst the gays has spoken to God and He's told them it's okay? The only difference is the religious have an answer to this, that God does speak specifically in the Bible that homosexuality is forbidden.
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I'm not homophobic so don't go bashing on me, I'm just trying to make you see both sides: the religious get just as much crap for standing up in what they believe in, too. If we want equality, we have to respect both sides. Peace~!
This point is easily rebuked by the existence of common law and civil unions.
"I see a huge load of hypocrisy on all sides"
Unless those examples both happened at the same church it isn't hypocrisy. There are many different churches with different beliefs and interpretations of their holy texts.
"I see people who by the very teachings of the religion they choose to live by should be accepting and welcoming of all regardless of their 'sins' and yet are acting as judge/jury/executioner contrary to that."
Individuals themselves also have many different interpretations of their faith.
The point is that there are people who have those legal benefits and are not married. Those issues are not one and the same.
"If a religion flies the 'flag' of a Christian faith and read the bible regardless of the version they have the same rules."
The whole point of all the different kinds of churches is that there are things they interpret differently.