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shurikkaru
· 9 years ago
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Well I as an American applaud you for earning your independace in a much better fashion
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hickorynut2
· 9 years ago
Better? Please explain
shurikkaru
· 9 years ago
Less blood and death, more politics and petitioning
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jmvail
· 9 years ago
the Revolutionary war was one of the least violent wars in American history. do your research
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shurikkaru
· 9 years ago
It was still a war. Violence is violence, that was all I was saying
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ecumenicalmatter
· 9 years ago
As an Irishman who enjoys nothing more than Irish history I can say there was a lot of blood. We often couldn't use politics and petitioning because we weren't given the right to education, to vote, to hold office or other things similar for a large portion of those 900 years. We have had many uprisings (1798 for example), all of which were filled with bloodshed. We can look to the famine as being a part of the 900 year struggle too, because there was enough grain and other food sources in Ireland for the people to survive on but the English sold it off and shipped it to their troops. 1916, probably the biggest turning point in our recent history was entirely that way because the leaders of the Easter Rising were executed, this swayed public opinion to the nationalists. A couple years later we had our war for independence (in the aptly named "Irish War of Independence") --cont
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ecumenicalmatter
· 9 years ago
Cont- this war saw the Brits send over soldiers known as the "Black and Tans", essentially barbarians who would shoot a rifle at anything (example. Bloody Sunday (the first one, at croke park)). After we won that war we had a civil war in which we were fighting our own countrymen over wether we should sign the Anglo-Irish treaty or not (essentially giving us 26 out of 32 counties back). Things went quiet for a bit after that, what with WWII and such (there were some attacks and such but not many), then we move to 1969 and the Troubles began. Basically Catholics were being treated terribly again in the north, they were kicked out of their homes, often refused a vote, refused work and generally treated as second class citizens, eventually the people had had enough of being treated as second class citizens in their own country. They had riots, they couldn't show their intentions through political means as the English government controlled the media and voting. Cont--
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ecumenicalmatter
· 9 years ago
Cont- they had to take up arms. Originally they took up arms only to protect their own communities from death squads and such. But when the English government sent in the British Army (to "protect" the oppressed Catholics) and these soldiers began to collaborate with the death squads and openly attack civilians (see plastic bullets) and open fire on civilian peaceful marches (Bloody Sunday) the Irish knew they had to fight back. The troubles raged on for 3 decades. In there was the 1981 hunger strike (which inspired Nelson Mandela) and such. It was a long and bloody war. So to summarise there had been times when we could use peaceful means (eg. Parnell or even today) but for the most part we have had to fall back on armed force in our fight. Thankfully we are closer than ever before now, we now can vote, and are treated fairly.
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ecumenicalmatter
· 9 years ago
Sorry I just realised how long that is.. You don't have to bother reading it all :P
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texasranger
· 9 years ago
Why thank you Ireland when is yalls freedom day so that I may drink in your honour
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ecumenicalmatter
· 9 years ago
To be honest we're still waiting for it, the closest we have is the Easter Monday, we celebrate the 1916 Easter Rising, but the entirety of Ireland still remains unfree as the English still claim 6 counties up north
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thatguyyouknow
· 9 years ago
Also know as the county Northern Ireland
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deleted
· 9 years ago
Okay let me just say it is seriously cool that a man from an old rival is willing to drink in your honour despite everything that's happened
texasranger
· 9 years ago
The english abused and killed my ancestors too, my ancestors where some of the very first to cross the atlantic and settled in Massachusetts few generations later they all became rebels after one of my ancestors was killed at the battle of Lexington
ecumenicalmatter
· 9 years ago
Tiocfaidh ár lá!
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leviosanotleviosa
· 9 years ago
Why down vote them? The translation is our day will come!!
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guest
· 9 years ago
They were all just jealous of your great teeth : )
jmvail
· 9 years ago
you guys helped us out, too! when you guys were down and out, coming here hoping for a great life, you filled our factories and houses with great people. enjoy your freedom!
deleted
· 8 years ago
*cries tears of Guinness*
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