Well, first off, smiling at someone is not sexual harassment. If someone claims that, s-he's not a feminist, but a crazy-ass misandrist. Second, feminism is about fighting for gender equality for EVERYONE, in the whole world. What you're talking about is not feminism, it's just what you see about dumb people jumping on the bandwagon without even knowing what they fight for.
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Oh for fuck sakes. Here we go "That person is not a real feminist". Yes you are fucking right. We all know what real feminism is for heavens sake. But feminisim is no longer what it used to be, it is literally influenced by bug misandrist public figures who out right hate men. You can look up a ton of feminist public figures and you'll find the majority are in fact misandrists. The few that do actually preach true feminism are being flushed out by the misandrists who have made feminism their syndicate. For heavens sake the actress who played Penny on TBBT had to apologise to feminists because she said she liked cooking for her man. An accomplished space enginerr dude had to apologise for a shirt that had ecchi anime girls on it and he lost his job, right after he landed a thingy on a comet! That is what feminism has become my friend.
I'm late but 'deleted' claimed I was a female by saying 'my girl power is being oppressed'. I said I'm a guy. There's the relevance the uneducated cockwombler.
You already said it and it's still not relevant. 3rd wave feminism is still crap and believing in crap is not gender limited. Stupidity is not gender limited.
Having one issue be greater than another doesn't negate the lesser issue. Yes, women are violently abused in Saudi Arabia, but that doesn't negate the fact that women are harassed on public transportation on a daily basis. I remember reading a few years ago about how a special needs woman was outright raped on the back of a bus and no one did a thing. Women genuinely fear to use public transportation. I think claiming harassment is "a man smiling at a woman" makes the issue seem much less worse than it is. We need to be vigilant, both at home and abroad.
And it's not as if all feminists exist only in this country, or only focus on the problems here. Sure, there are feminists that focus on things like harassment on public transport, and there are people that call themselves feminists that do nothing but bitch all day. But that doesn't mean that there aren't feminists who work to help stop the abuse of women in places like Saudi Arabia. Feminism isn't a single group with a grocery list of goals to be done in a specific order. It's a movement, made up of a countless number of groups and organizations.
I agree. Okay, I am an educated woman and I've never had to face the horrible things women in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc face on a daily basis. I know I am among the more privileged people in the world and I am extremely grateful for that. That being said, I do face harassment at work, in public transport and what not. Anywhere I go, I come across at least that one creepy guy that will try to touch me inappropriately, send me creepy messages, spread dirty rumors about me just because I refused to sleep with him. Now, do I not have the right to complain about it and do something to stop it just because women in Saudi Arabia have it worse than me?
Exactly, I'm a feminist for myself sure. To fix these things which effect me personally. But I'm also a feminist for women who are suffering in other countries/places, I'm a feminist because I stand by these women whose everyday is a struggle for survival.
Nobody said that you all being harrassed is not important. I do not think that woman are safe everywhere they go in first world countries. Nobody ever said that though? We know that there ARE real problems that exist in first world countries, and we would all be more than happy to hop on board if you were to alert us of such. But your attention is being hijacked by attention seeking, daddy issue ridden misandrists. And this comment that "Feminism is not one bus" as in feminism isn't just one giant group is just dumb. If a member of the KKK felt sorry for a black man who was being beaten and happened to save him, the KKK would probably kick him out right then and there. For sympathising and allowing their "enemy" to prosper. But that's the thing, misandry has penetrated feminism and feminists don't single them out. They praise them. They do not make it known that "This is not a feminist" they simply allow them to spew their bullshit. I used that example to add some dark humor btw.
Here we go with another "what is or isn't feminism" discussion. The post clearly says "modern feminism". Just because YOU do not think that a man smiling at a woman is harassment (nor do I, and nor does anyone with a more than 50 IQ) does not mean that there aren't tumblr types out there that do. Feminism as a label has been hijacked by the psycho element, and twisted to mean just that sort of BS. You people arguing that that sort of stupidity is not "feminism" are exactly correct, but, the stupid people who would say that a man smiling at a woman is harassment are those that use the term for their crazy ideas. When we argue about what feminism is or isn't, we are not taking into account that others are using different definitions, and therefore we are simply arguing in circles without getting anywhere. The type of people to whom this post refers call themselves "feminists", so this is the definition we must accept for the purposes of this discussion.
For the record, OP is exactly right. The types that bitch about such stupidity and call it harassment or discrimination clearly do not really care about gender equality, or even human equality, but usually have some ulterior political motive.
First world feminism shouldn't even need to exist at this point. If someone is a real feminist they should focus on opressed women in third world countries, not some triggered rich chick.
There's an odd Freshman in a class I TA for (I'm a Senior). He likes me, but hasn't made any moves quite yet. Today he said I looked good in my dress, and he likes my ring. My feminist trans friend told me I should tell him off for harassment. Poor kid hasn't done anything :/ I'm all for women's rights (who isn't??) But because of shit like this I don't label myself feminist...
We've both been down voted, but I agree with you Sweg. Men are not the enemy. And what my "friend" told me, to me, that's not feminism. That hate promotion. I get pissed anytime someone says "Masculinity is fragile". So is feminism, get off your high horse, ladies and gents.
we need to support equality. the term feminism has been corrupted and hijacked to be used as a platform dedicated not to achieving equality, but to simply switch the tables. while a proponent of equality will want saudi arabian women to finally be treated as humans within their country, the average person who openly identifies as a feminist would simply have the men and women switch places, thus allowing injustice and inequality to continue to exist. if we simply fight for equality among all peoples, we will achieve a far better outcome than if we lobby for feminism.
also, ignore the downvotes. in fact, feel proud of them. if you get downvoted on Funsubstance, it simply means you're doing the right thing.
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· 8 years ago
Goly fuck the feministz on this site are almost as cancerous as the Tumblr bitches. For god's sake you uneducated whales the girl spoke out on an experience and why she doesn't support feminism and you go dislike. Nice counter argument.
The thing that gets me about modern economists is that they don't seem to have their priorities in order. If the US experiences a recession, that's a crisis. The problem is that Haiti exists. There is a country in the world where 80% of its citizens live below the poverty line. There are around 400,000 street children in India. France's unemployment rate is nearly twice that of the US. Trying to create jobs for Americans while other countries have a lower standard of living than the US is like someone standing up during the worst years of the transatlantic slave trade and saying "I think we should rename blackberries because it may be offensive to African Americans."
(To be clear, the above is satire.)
I know right? I mean, it's okay that women want the right to vote and be paid equally but now they don't even want to be sexually harassed anymore? That's just ridiculous!
Third wave feminism takes even compliments as harassment and doesn't give a fuck that men are also sexually harassed and abused. I'm sorry but that IS just ridiculous.
This is true. The idea of equality has been hijacked by psychos. Some do think that they should be treated better than men, but most just want to cause a shitstorm because they're unhappy little people and they want the rest of us to be miserable too.
On another note, nobody of us know the full story about the smiling thing. What if the person was openly checking them out, smiling creepily and maybe even following them? The person who made this post is obviously "against" that smiling-story. Who knows, maybe they left out the important part.
When you have that mind set, that's all you look for. If you walk into a workplace or some other setting thinking "People will stare at my boobs" or "People will look down on me because I am a female" that's all you will look for, that's what your brain will tell you is happening. Maybe they were smiling "creepily". Maybe they weren't. Following is quite an extreme, and I'm surprised you mentioned that someone would have been followed after being smiled at. It's true, none of us know the "full story", but maybe this *is* the full story. It's all I've ever seen, anyway :/
That's the feminist mindset. Demand a full story here (what if he was...walking in the same direction as her?!?!? Must have been stalking!!!!), but when a case appears when a girl was "raped" and the guy is imprisoned, but then it gets proven that she only made it up to get revenge on him or something, all they care about is the first part and proceed to create a huge shitstorm. Third wave feminists don't want equality, they want superiority, and when someone points out how corrupt feminism nowadays is, they hide behind the dictionary definition of feminism, which however describes first/second wave feminism, you know, the times when feminists were sane and actually wanted equality. Honestly, someone should update the dictionary.
(To be clear, the above is satire.)
Everyone just agrees what ever the Internet or media tells you.