It's a really grey topic. In one hand, people only saw the footage that was shown, not the whole thing. For all we know, the mum might have lost the kid and was trying to stop the child, and the gorilla could have been wildly aggressive. After all, the officials would know the behavioural patterns of the gorilla. Or, the gorilla could have been nurturing and the officials could have panicked. However, to save the child to them, was probably worth more than the life of a gorilla. I know it's terrible, and I hate the untimely deaths on any living creature, but again, it's a very grey topic.
Apparently he got more aggressive as the crowd started screaming and they had no choice.
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And the tranquilizers don't act immediately, so it would have made him more aggressive. I just can't help but think that none of this would have happened if the zoo had better barriers between the people and the animals. Yes the mother should have had her child with her, but kids are slippery and it literally takes less than a moment for something to happen. It's a bad situation regardless of the outcome.
That zoo has been open longer than any of us here have been alive, even longer that our parents have been alive and this is the first time it's happened. I'm sure they can make improvements but there is always going to be someone who manages to get where their not supposed to.
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Thats true. It just seems like there have been too many breaches of animal barriers lately standard methods should be reinforced. But you are right, no matter how much they do if someone wants in, they'll get in.
I find it interesting how only a few days ago people were justifying the killing of 2 lions to save a man actively clinging to said animals in a suicide attempt yet now they are blaming everyone for the death of this gorilla to save a child.
You have no idea what the circumstances were. That child could have broken away from his mother and made a mad dash for the enclosure and been inside before she could catch him. Kids are really good at that. Thos has no doubt been a waking nightmare for that family, so how about people stop throwing judgment when they can't possibly know the whole story.
Now, why was the enclosure accessible to a 4 year old? I think that's a much more pertinent question.
Anyone who has ever taken a lid that age to any kind of zoo or park knows how fast they can escape. It happens everyday, usually with no worse concequences than a smack on the rear. Unfortunately this time ended in tragedy but it could have been so much worse.
Its the same valid argument they gave about the lions, no tranq could act fast enough and he'd turned aggressive. The lions were actually trying to back off but the SOB was literally hanging on like a monkey.
A lot of people don't realize how dangerous a full grown silver back gorilla is. I would honestly prefer to face a lion.
I'm definetly in the camp of, 'they were justified for killing the gorilla'. It sucks that it had to die but what if they'd not shot him and in a split second the gorilla got bored, irritated or didn't realize his own strengthe and ripped the childs arms off?
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it was stated that they couldn't just tranquilize the gorilla, as it wouldn't be effective immediately and would take a good few minutes. the child was already being hurt, the gorilla could have easily killed the kid before the tranqilizer took effect, and they didn't have much, if any other choice. i don't agree with shooting animals in this fashion, but in these circumstances they had no other choice
Apparently the incident lasted 10 minutes (I was just reading an updated article on CNN) If thats the case I can't help but wonder why the zookeepers didn't tranq him as soon as it began rather than waiting to see how it would play out?
Because if they hit him with a tranquilizer odds are he would flip out and immediately hurt the child. He was already dragging him with the hen kids head hitting the concrete
Because there has been a couple of occasions where other Gorillas step up to defend children, because of their close relation to SilverBack babies :) if the gorilla had protected him, there would be no point in making it angry with tranqs when it could've easily saved the kid
Apparently he cleared the railing and fell the ~15 feet into the enclosure. If you've ever been around a four year old you would know they have almost no fear, are very fast, and very creative in how to get what they want.
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People reported that the child was being rowdy and stating that he wanted to go into the enclosure to play with the gorilla. The mother chose to ignore her child. And not to mention afterwards she posted the stupidest post on Facebook. She should be held accountable for neglect towards her child and for the death of the gorilla. Fuck all of you dumbasses defending her. You people disgust me.
Yes, how dare we have empathy for another human being and attempt to look at all viewd of the incident.
How about fuck your judgemental ass.
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Oh no of course go right a head and feel empathy towards a shitty mother. I'm sure you could relate to her. If you would actually attempt to look at all of the views you would see that this is the fault of shitty parenting but instead you decide to empathize with her
I'm assuming you NEVER got into anything you weren't supposed to as a child because if you did then you my friend had shitty parents by your logic. Yes the mother should have been more attentive but she had other kids with her too and kids can get into stuff very quick all it takes is a short moment of not being watched. Not defending the mother but to call her a shitty parent is a bit of a stretch
No, I chose to empathise with her, knowing, that I don't know the whole story. Instead of assessing the whole situation and then rant about her being a bitch, I chose to feel empathy for a woman who lost her child. Yeah, maybe she was a shitty parent, but any parent, is a parent. Sorry some of us don't feel the need to research the whole story so we can publicly call her out as a bitch, in a stupid, worthless argument :)
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Exactly you don't know the whole story or even attempted at researching what happened. So why are you trying to form an opinion "in a stupid, worthless argument"? And she didn't lose her child, the kid only got a concussion and a few scrapes. Whereas this gorilla, who is an endangered species, was killed.
That's what I got from you saying the kid got a few scrapes and a concussion whereas the gorilla was killed
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I stated that the kid got a few scrapes and a concussion as a correction towards a comment made by @demon_razgriz who had mentioned "I chose to feel empathy for a women who lost her child"
Im a sea lion keeper at a facility in the US and I am so mad this happened! I wish the zoo could have used tranqs instead but I understand it's a gorilla and therefore life threatening. But this whole "he's only 4 it wasn't her fault" is BS. if you can't control your kid from running into an area that dangerous he shouldn't be with you at the zoo! The zoo is not for your kids to gawk and act like the animals are teddy bears they're toteach kids ththat these animals deserve respect and kindness and gorillas are critically endangered so thanks a lot dumbasses. Once again stupid people kill innocent animals
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Thank you! There are to many stupid ass people defending the mother
Exactly. If it was their kids who somehow had slipped in there they would have wanted the zookeepers to do whatever they had to do to get the child out safely.
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Key word being "slipped". This instance however is not the instance for that word
It was also reported that she missed him because she was watching other kids and a witnesa tried to grab him but he escaped. Seriously this kid had no concept of authority or safety or anything. And if you can't control your kid's safety it's nobody else's job to do it for you
he was four. also, are you saying it's everyone else's responsibility to keep your child safe? if you know he's prone to getting into mischief keep a hold of him! if you have too many kids to watch then get help! and normally I HATE kid leashes but if you REALLY can't keep control of your kid in a public area with dangerous animals then put him on a leash.
Unfortunately many are extinct now because they were only in the wild. Humans suck at the whole not slaughtering animals (and each other) fir profit and vanity thing. The sad truth is for some animals the only safe place to build the population numbers is in captivity.
Wow, imagine if we didn't keep wild animals locked up in "enclosures" for human viewing pleasure, then this wouldn't be an issue; but no we cant do that, we will just keep letting people who can't keep their children under control cause problems like this. Before you think "well small children can get away fast" I don't give a sh*t, I have three of them, that woman should be held accountable for neglect, your child doesn't just climb over the fence, through wires and bushes to make it into Gorilla World before falling 15 feet. The zoo did what it had to do to save a child, but the parents are responsible and should be held accountable.
Well thats the first time something has happened like that at the Cincinnati Zoo in our lifetime. On a side note, One thing I came across while reading an article was the site I read it on started bringing up the dad's criminal history, wtf does that have to do with anything?
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That's possibly just trying to find ground to fault the parents more for not supervising the child. People apparently started a petition to have the child taken away, and so that discredits the father making good decisions, and also the mother for being in his life in their minds.
You have no idea what the circumstances were. That child could have broken away from his mother and made a mad dash for the enclosure and been inside before she could catch him. Kids are really good at that. Thos has no doubt been a waking nightmare for that family, so how about people stop throwing judgment when they can't possibly know the whole story.
Now, why was the enclosure accessible to a 4 year old? I think that's a much more pertinent question.
And also, the people who shot the gorilla are professionals, they know what to do
A lot of people don't realize how dangerous a full grown silver back gorilla is. I would honestly prefer to face a lion.
How about fuck your judgemental ass.
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