This is about how rape victims are blamed. "She shouldn't have dressed that way", "she actually wanted it", "she was asking for it", "if she didn't want it, she wouldn't have gotten wet", "she was drunk and asking for it", "her parents should have educated her on how to dress properly and to carry pepper spray",etc. Its putting blame and responsibility on victims.
So @ajhedges, are you saying that folks are making this stuff up for shits and giggles? Because according to the Rape, Assault, and Incest National Network, only 3 out of 100 people accused of rape will see the inside a prison cell
I heavily lean towards the thought that very often, fault can be attributed to more than one party. In this case, rapist and rapee. Of course, the rapist always carries almost all the responsibility but getting blackout drunk isn't good either. It's like standing in front of a loaded gun. You put yourself in a position to get shot but ultimately it's the shooter's fault. But you still didn't take all reasonable steps to not get shot.
Of course this is ignoring the rapes where we strangulate someone from the street and drag them into a dark alley with a canvas bag over their head and then tie them upside down while gangraping their hanging body. Situations where it just happens out of nowhere.
This shouldn't be a fight about "if it was a woman", because it's about a rapist, we shouldn't talk about genders, before being a woman or a man we are all humans, that's why there is human's rights... We are talking about victims and rapists, usually rapists (either woman or man) get away with the crime and the victims get the blame for something other person did.... Seriously, am i talking to kids or to grown ups, by now we should all be able to understand we are human beings, what a hell, who cares if it was a woman or a man... just think about what that person must be feeling after living something like that.... I enjoyed the sarcasm on the post but the comments...my god... We make the society, we as individuals, if we can't start thinking like that then "the society" it's never going to end with stereotypes.
There would be a good bit of serious concern, but the rhetoric would be quite different. Society tends to not take male rape victims seriously, regardless of age, saying things like "You're lucky," or "You should of enjoyed it." They wouldn't of joked about it, or at least not in the same way, but they would of set up a lot of discourse.
Amount of times these words ( him, he, himself, male, man, dude or men ) were mentioned = 16
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Amount of times these words ( her, she, herself, female, woman, girl or women ) were mentioned = 0
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Like i said, i dont wanna argue too much but when somebody is arguing with no logic its hard to not argue.
Either lurk or discourse, there are no bystanders. The whole thing uses the same sort of arguments that are generally used towards female rape victims, but in a satirical fashion. In this way, it is meant to denounce these arguments and this man. The obvious subject is male, but the subtext is female.
Im just saying that if it was the other way around and the man killed the woman everybody would support the woman ( which i would agree with ) and say negative stuff about the male rather then mocking the woman. Look, i know this true and state your opinion arguing about this all you want, i dont care.
This post isn't saying the man actually deserved it, or not giving the man any sympathy. It's pointing out that a human being was attacked/hurt, and demonstrating how ridiculous these responses to a victim are. This thread is made up of satirical responses making fun of society's reaponses to victims, not making fun of this victim. They are not supporting setting rapists on fire or saying this guy deserved it, you low functioning twit.
No, I don't agree. As I said, they're not saying "this asshole should burn." They aren't reacting to a woman burning a man, they're responding to a victim setting a rapist on fire. They aren't commenting on this specific rapist. They are rhetorically repeating society's common response to a rape victim to ironically point out how stupid it sounds when applied to a victim of another crime. Do you read Swift and say "if there were more rich people starving his reaction would be different" too? Because I'm getting the feeling you're not good at understanding abstract.
I agree and don't at the same time because it's pointless statement and pointless argument. Of course the reaction would be different, because usually when a woman is set on fire its because she tried to leave her abusive boyfriend or she lives in a country where that's chill.
So, @boberto, what is your goal here? What are you trying to accomplish with your statements? Is it your belief that there is an injustice here for men that is not there for women who have been raped?
http://time.com/3001785/todd-akin-legitimate-rape-msnbc-child-of-rape/
http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/there-was-only-one-victim-at-steubenville-20130318-2gaxy.html
There's more too.
Of course this is ignoring the rapes where we strangulate someone from the street and drag them into a dark alley with a canvas bag over their head and then tie them upside down while gangraping their hanging body. Situations where it just happens out of nowhere.
You: hmm... how can I make this about men?
The whole post is about the man
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Amount of times these words ( her, she, herself, female, woman, girl or women ) were mentioned = 0
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Like i said, i dont wanna argue too much but when somebody is arguing with no logic its hard to not argue.