But science dictates that a male and female brain are the exact same (barring certain hormone levels which don't affect actually as much as some people seem to think)
But female brains tend to mature and start to over secrete hormones earlier then males usually in middle school while males are later and tend to have higher concentrations of hormones
Equality isn't about men and women being the same, this is a terrible argument. It's about equal opportunity. Equality means that if you hire a man and a woman with equal credentials, you pay them the same. It means you give both a new father and mother leave to bond with their new baby if they need it, and you let both parents return to work after without penalty. It means that if a woman is physically capable of a job, even if the bar is high and a lot of other women aren't, you let her do the job. It means if a man is the stay at home parent in a family, he gets the same respect as a woman and you don't berate him and put him down. It means you accept that as our world becomes more and more automated, physical differences become less of an issue, and that you accept that men and women can both sometimes be fragile without one being told he's not masculine enough and the other being told she's overemotional. Equality is equal opportunity to try.
I agree with most of the above excepting equal pay for equal credentials. I would argue equal pay for equal performance. Credentials are irrelevant.
Also, the OP meme recognises that men and women are different yet "equal in every way". Generally speaking men and women are not equal "in every way". Of course there are exceptions but both sexes have strengths and weaknesses depending on what the intended goal is. As in the example someone mentioned earlier, example: if the goal is lifting heavy things; advantage men. The trick is to concentrate on the goal and have everyone use their strengths to help achieve it. What gender the strengths come from is irrelevant.
I get it but in things like sports they will never be equal really men have more muscle mass. I mean jobs requiring lots of strength or lifting gives a definite advantage to men something we as a people cant change
How is that relevant? Women who apply for these kind of jobs will be able to do them, don't you think so? And what about a trained female athlete against an untrained man? The differences within all women, from one extreme to the other, are larger than the differences between the average man and the average woman.
Female athletes to male athletes are not equal no duh if someone trains more than someone else the one who trains more wins but when training is even then men have the advantage
He doesn't get science. So listen up, suckster, this one's for you: Comparisons between men and women are never valid for each individual. The possible variety of ANY given property or characteristic within the entire group of women (or men) is a lot wider that than the respective difference between the average man and the average woman. For example the average american man weighs 86 kg, the average american women 74 kg. But of course there are 50 kg women and 100 kg, and not just a few. So the undeniable fact (as in: nobody denies it) that men and women are different and the average man is stronger than the average woman is most completely irrelevant in real life.
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w-w-wat. No your statement just proves that the norm means that men are the stronger sex. But there are some outliers? You fail statistics section in math?
Now I get your problem: you're biologically a man but _lots_ of women could probably seriously kick your sorry little ass, not like in those times where women wouldn't even think of anything like that. So you got to stick to such irrelevant facts like which is the stronger sex. You cannot still rule and cannot cope yet. Must really suck to be the likes of you.
Alright you obviously don't get it we could flip it and say what about a 400lb wrestler and a 180lb boxer that is simply retarded but Like I said before if you put a 180 vs a 180 a male would have the upper advantage
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Im not disagreeing that a woman can beat my ass retard. I'm saying if the average man is stronger than the average woman, if you had to line em up in a row and give em boxing gloves, because there are MORE men stronger than women they would have a better chance at winningm but that does not mean the women wouldn't do any damage? Where the fuck did you get that I think no woman is stronger than a man. I'm simply saying just because you get outliers in the entire group doesn't make the whole argument "women are the weaker sex" invalid. It simply means there are outliers. It's like a bowl of cereal some of the cerial may have come out funny whilst the average number of cereal crisps or whatever are going to look like on the box. So the average woman is weaker but it doesn't excuse that a woman can be stronger
"if you put a 180 vs a 180 a male would have the upper advantage" - In 100% of all cases you think? If you say: men are stronger than women, it's simply wrong. If you're 180 lb, you can generate more power out of your momentum than with your muscles. So a 180 lb woman with the right technique could kick a lot of 180 lb mens asses. Also a person with a vagina can have a metabolism that would be defined as typical male, so she could release more muscle power than a person with a penis and a metabolism that would be typical for an average woman. You need to add the word average to such statements or it's wrong, and that's all I'm saying.
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Like I said. There can be outliers but research shows men are generally the stronger sex. Meaning if we had to do a test 5 men against 5 women, 1 round each same stats. Men would have the upper hand and probably win 3/5 games. But in the case that a woman wins 3/5 it does not mean they are stronger as if we had to do this test 10 times men would get 6.5 or 7 out of ten. Just an example.
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Science isn't sexist I'm using this data to make myself feel strong. I know plenty of woman who are strong but I know a lot more who arent.
No shiz there are outliers there are outliers in everything so you arguing outliers is useless. I'm saying biologically men are stronger than females idk what the crap this boxing and punching technique is but I'm saying men biologically are stronger
If experiments were to be conducted, the majority of the winners may be men, but that doesn't actually mean that men are biologically stronger. If you toss a coin ten times and it lands on its head nine times, does that mean that the coin has a higher chance to land on its head?
And that tells me that you misunderstand the issue, and probably shouldn't be talking about it.
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Something nobody has heard or reported on. Woman have the upper hand in the future and this scares me, and it's because I'm male. There are currently more women than men in tertiary education (colleger/university). This means women will be the next leaders of countries etc. Which i don't have a problem with. what I have a problem with is the hatred for men that is becoming a trend and I can't help but feel they're going to turn the tables instead of fixing the table leg that's broken to make it equal. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/gender-gap-widens-as-women-graduates-outpace-the-men/news-story/654602edef0f1d3ee230fa82cc58a798
Most of that is centered in ultrafeminist echo chambers and magnified because of the permeance of social media. Most women want their boyfriends anf husbands and brothers and sons to succeed as much as we want them to want us to succeed. Intersectional feminism is slowly taking over--the idea that you raise everyone up at once, that if you tackle race and religion and class problems everyone succeeds and it's good for women--and some of the old school feminists are pissed about it. The reality is that there are far fewer "FUCK THE PATRIARCHY" women and far more "can I please just do what I want and am capable of without being called Sweetie by coworkers and bothered on the street by strangers?" women. The former seem to be on liberal college campuses and haven't met all the real humans in the world yet.
@dancadamorte and false. These man haters are not the "minority" of feminists anymore. They have now engulfed it. Pure examples are Laci green and Anita Sharkesean (however you spell it). They're popular feminist figures who have followings of millions who lie and abuse systems to fuck over anyone who doesn't agree with their "straight white men are the devil" agenda. They have followings by the millions. They influence millions, millions agree with their agenda.
I have to agree that it is scary to think of, even as a woman. I have a younger brother that I care about a lot and the thought of him getting strung up by some feminazi for no better reason than that he did or said something she didn't agree with is not a happy one. And what about my son if I ever had one? I wish these women would realize that this sort of stuff doesn't fix the problem. it's just the same problem turned around. The only solution is to stop thinking in terms of men vs. women and start thinking in terms of men+women vs. life.
Also, the OP meme recognises that men and women are different yet "equal in every way". Generally speaking men and women are not equal "in every way". Of course there are exceptions but both sexes have strengths and weaknesses depending on what the intended goal is. As in the example someone mentioned earlier, example: if the goal is lifting heavy things; advantage men. The trick is to concentrate on the goal and have everyone use their strengths to help achieve it. What gender the strengths come from is irrelevant.