Not really. He is talking about how it is collateral when we kill a child in a foreign country with bombs. This is in the context of him using the police and military to slaughter civilians who do drugs, and kids dying in the attacks.
Yeah, not a good dude. He is Rodrigo Duterte, president of the Philippines. He has been president for less than 6 months, and in just 3 months, there were 3000 deaths connected to his rhetoric on drugs.
I'm 100% for eliminating the crime that is connected to drugs – dealers, cartels, all that. But the best way to achieve it is imo legalizing, taxing and regulating drugs, not by starting a war on drugs. It's just like the prohibition, gangs were/are on the rise because some chemicals are banned. By decriminalizing and legalizing drugs we could
a) get addicted people help instead of throwing them in jail or killing them (kudos to Obama for releasing non-violent drug offenders),
b) eliminate crime connected to drugs,
c) get rid of cheap knockoff drugs like krokodil which are dangerous to one's health,
d) get a shitton of tax money from drugs,
e) create jobs connected to refining drugs.
At the end of the day, drugs are not that different from substances we already use like caffeine, alcohol, sugar, or painkillers. Why treat them with such hostility?
Disclaimer: I don't do any drugs so I have no personal interest in their legalization, I just think the war on drugs is irrational.
Oh I forgot point f) focus the police force that is used to crack down on drug users to do something that's really useful like catching actual criminals like murderers, rapists and so on.
@chu Idk I think the system is the cause of these symptoms. The war on drugs itself causes these symptoms. Dealers are just assholes who exploit this system, they didn't create it, they just feed on it. I'm for dealing with them mercilessly as well but as @edgar said you won't get rid of them just by killing them because they will keep emerging as long as the war on drugs exists.
(Edit: oh boy, either I have a downvote stalker on my back or someone is triggered that I disagree with them but is too big of a pussy to present their arguments.)
Whether or not we treat drugs as a crime or a health issue is irrelevant to the dealers, it's only relevant to how we deal with users. Drugs are illegal either way and the dealers are selling addiction and despair. Unless you're saying that our entire system in general (whatever that means) is the cause of this, then I can't say anything because I don't know anything.
I was writing a really long comment but my browser crashed and it got lost, also it's early morning here and I just woke up so sorry if I won't make much sense. By "the system" I don't mean any crazy conspiracy shit like the Illuminati or whatever, I mean how the govt is treating drugs. Specifically the war on drugs. As I already said it's similar to the prohibition – a substance is banned, people seek it illegally and its only source are gangs/cartels. These cartels, apart from selling stuff that is illegal, also wage war between each other, resulting in gang violence and many deaths. If we legalize drugs, they will become a lot more accessible, we will get rid of the cartels and dealers and the situation will improve. Then of course we can crack down on the gangs and so on and give addicted people rehab.
So you want to regulate meth and heroin? Things are banned for a reason. People seek things illegally probably because they want to escape something. This something is the life that's been given to them. So the "system" I think you're talking about is care for the underprivileged. There's no excuse to do drugs and no excuse to deal. Unless you were born with an addiction because your mom's a shitty green orangutan with weapons grade autism, don't fucking do drugs and don't fucking deal them. No demand means supply is useless.
That's a very 90's way of thinking. "Drugs are bad, don't do em, conversation over."
There was this statistic I saw a while back that said that about 90% of drug users are casual users, only 10% become addicted. This article is the closest thing I found but unfortunately it's not quite it: http://ideas.time.com/2013/11/21/trey-radel-scandal-whats-so-bad-about-casual-drug-use/
So you say there's no excuse to put a possibly addictive substance in your body ever? Okay. You ever drank alcohol or coffee? You ever ate something with sugar in it? By your own logic that makes you a disaster of a person.
(Fun fact: a lot of people became addicts thanks to opioid based painkillers which are 100% legal.)
I bet that during the prohibition there were people who said "alcohol is banned for a reason." but that doesn't make it right.
(I see the downvote stalker troll is still on a rampage, unless it's you doing the downvoting which would be hilarious.)
It's stupid that it's socially acceptable to brag about being addicted if the drug is caffeine.
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That comment about regulating Meth and Heroin prove that you don't understand what those drugs are. Heroin is an opiate cut with awful, toxic chemicals. If you were to regulate Heroin, you would sell hospital grade morphine, which is an opiate like Heroin. It is a similar situation for meth. There are medicines that currently exist, that produce the same kind of high, that just aren't available to the public, so shitty versions cut with those toxic chemicals get sold.
If you legalize and regulate drugs, meth and heroin will go away in favor of safer alternative.
@tkdbb156 Exactly! That's what I've been saying. Thank you thank you thank you.
@chu I'm quite the opposite. I don't care what you put in your body as long as it doesn't make you hurt anyone else. But I'm glad we agree on the fact that substances like caffeine and alcohol shouldn't be viewed as different just because they have a bit of historical/cultural background. I realized that something's wrong with society when people started giving me weird looks for saying I don't drink alcohol. But that was high school so I couldn't expect anything else.
Most of those were attempts to kill VC.
You know they didn't wear uniforms, right?
When soldiers are attacked by people without uniforms, they become wary of anyone who isn't wearing a uniform.
The VC played the same game as the terrorists are playing now.
President Duerte has a point, but do not forget his reckless endangerment of civilians lives and outlandish policies that justifies the use of the term murder. The crime of the US should not be put at a higher level, but finger pointing and "he's doing it too" doesn't change the topic of the interview: him.
a) get addicted people help instead of throwing them in jail or killing them (kudos to Obama for releasing non-violent drug offenders),
b) eliminate crime connected to drugs,
c) get rid of cheap knockoff drugs like krokodil which are dangerous to one's health,
d) get a shitton of tax money from drugs,
e) create jobs connected to refining drugs.
At the end of the day, drugs are not that different from substances we already use like caffeine, alcohol, sugar, or painkillers. Why treat them with such hostility?
Disclaimer: I don't do any drugs so I have no personal interest in their legalization, I just think the war on drugs is irrational.
(Edit: oh boy, either I have a downvote stalker on my back or someone is triggered that I disagree with them but is too big of a pussy to present their arguments.)
There was this statistic I saw a while back that said that about 90% of drug users are casual users, only 10% become addicted. This article is the closest thing I found but unfortunately it's not quite it: http://ideas.time.com/2013/11/21/trey-radel-scandal-whats-so-bad-about-casual-drug-use/
So you say there's no excuse to put a possibly addictive substance in your body ever? Okay. You ever drank alcohol or coffee? You ever ate something with sugar in it? By your own logic that makes you a disaster of a person.
(Fun fact: a lot of people became addicts thanks to opioid based painkillers which are 100% legal.)
I bet that during the prohibition there were people who said "alcohol is banned for a reason." but that doesn't make it right.
(I see the downvote stalker troll is still on a rampage, unless it's you doing the downvoting which would be hilarious.)
If you legalize and regulate drugs, meth and heroin will go away in favor of safer alternative.
@chu I'm quite the opposite. I don't care what you put in your body as long as it doesn't make you hurt anyone else. But I'm glad we agree on the fact that substances like caffeine and alcohol shouldn't be viewed as different just because they have a bit of historical/cultural background. I realized that something's wrong with society when people started giving me weird looks for saying I don't drink alcohol. But that was high school so I couldn't expect anything else.
You know they didn't wear uniforms, right?
When soldiers are attacked by people without uniforms, they become wary of anyone who isn't wearing a uniform.
The VC played the same game as the terrorists are playing now.