yea it does cost more money but at the same time money has less value. My dad used to work 10 cents an hour and instead we work for 7.50 an hour or whatever for you state. The ability to stay on your feet and do all the things that he says you cant do today has not gone away. True it probably takes more work but it is very capable as explained in my financial literacy class in school. IDK if any of you have the options to take it but it really helps explain how to be successful
Maybe, just maybe he ought to buck up and take some ownership of his life. Think back 75 years ago when cell phones (and phone bills) didn't exist, college education wasn't even an option for all but a select few, and teenaged boys were volunteering to go overseas, risk their lives, fight and kill people so that we could all retain our right to blame our shortcomings on things like a phone bill. If you're looking to point toward a more desireable place and time to exsist, keep looking.
A college education is mostly mandatory in today's job market. Trying to find a good paying job on a career track that you want without a specific bachelor's or masters degree is very difficult. There are examples of jobs you can get without a degree, or course, but for most young people a solid career without one is out of reach.
Your 1st and last sentances are unconditionally false. There is a world full of careers out there that you dont need a degree to get into. What you do need is a willingness to start at the bottom and the determination to work your way up. Of course that means your wage will be so low that you cant afford $1500 / month student loans.... oh, wait. Maybe an iphone 7 is out of reach too....... ow crap, now I've just gone and proven my original point.
I did say that there jobs out there for people without a degree, but they are shrinking everyday. I would be ecstatic if there were more well paying jobs that anybody with a work ethic could just hop into and succeed. But most of those jobs don't exist anymore. And for a lot of people, myself included, a smart phone is your only lifeline to the world. I use my phone to: browse the Internet, make calls, stay in contact with people, and watch TV and movies. It has replaced at least four other devices for me. I do need it because I'm on call for my job 24/7, but I guess having a reliable form of communication is a luxury for you
Join the military, work for a small business, or spend a few years on shit duty so that college doesn't completely wreck you.
You could pinch some more pennies by going to a smaller college.
Agreed famousone! Working during college and not spending all the money you have is a good policy. And to add to the military aspect, there are other forms of national service a person can do to help alleviate the cost of higher education.
princess is right you know.a college education used to mean a lot and you would have been right maybe 10-20 years ago. Now though you can see that most people are going to college because they think it is an advantage. While it is an advantage it holds no where near the same value as it use to. Since degrees are so massed produced the value of them has gone down kinda like money.. You can now see that the main thing that business employers are looking for is experience. Experience is an extremely valuable asset as a lot of students dont have very much of it. Now the question is can you get a decent paying job without a degree? Yes. In fact almost all trades do not require a degree and they tend to pay very well. So to say that there are almost no jobs for a high school diploma is false and in fact looking a little further you can see that they could easily make a living similar to a college degree in most cases.
last time i checked no in fact my trade as a contractor only requires a high school diploma sometimes even less. That is why most dropouts or people who did not go to college go into trades. Autos, construction, welding, and specialist trades do not require college degrees. You can also look to the self made careers like inventing or writing. Those are high risk but the highest paying jobs and yet again they do not require degrees.
I work in the skilled trades in a supervisory role. I make decent money. We cannot find enough employees who show up daily and are willing to accept that they don't already know everything and are willing to leave their phones in their pockets. Don't buy the lie that you need a degree. Our field operations staff make more than our non-commission office staff.
Don't hate me for playing this card but many trade jobs hire men over women. NOT because it's sexist. Men are stronger than woman it's just a fact. If a job requires a lot of manual a man would be preferred over a women. There are many jobs that's you HAVE to get a college for. You can't just work your way up in some jobs. The person with the degree so going to have an edge over you. You can get experience in college. Many students have internships during the last two years. College is helpful in many jobs because you not only get experience but if you do it right you make connections which are REALLY important for getting a job. However I think if people don't know what they what to do before hand college CAN be a waste of money. Personally I think associates degrees are undervalued. You don't spend nearly as much. Socially I felt pressured to go to a four year college.
While I agree in the value of internships, in some cases an internship can be achieved as early as high school the college experience may help if you have an interest in starting and running a business but to work in it the extra 2 or so years you have working over the college degree will actually give you the edge. The issue with college and where it loses value is most college degrees do not deal with trades. In fact they usually have trade school designed to teach you what colleges do not. So if you are going to get a higher education and pursue a trade I would suggest a trade school over college completely. I am currently in high school as a junior and I have already interned for nearly 4 years off and on
I also came up through skilled trades. Like poketgebear, i'm in management now to and live more than comfortably. Theres many guys that work with me as technicians that also do very well. Although i have a two year AAS degree (that my first employer paid for including starter tools) many of the guys i work with do not. I certainly dont require a degree to start, only some aptitude, good work ethic, and a desire to learn. I am currently paying for education and tools for kids to join our team and have very few takers.
I am not sure people will ever understand necessity! Everything else is a comfort!
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the cost doubled when min wage jumped from $5.50 an hour. i know this well because i was getting $8 and hour when it jumped. next thing i knew i was being payed min wage again and now my food was doubled. raising min wage will never compete with inflation. if you know anything about production, you'll see the problem, to many hands in the cookie jar. think about jelly. the production of soil, sold to the farmer, the seeds sold to the farmer, the people he pays to pick the fruit, the company pays a guy to ship, the jelly plant pays people to process, then pays someone to ship into a warehouse, stock managed and packed to ship to the store, pay people to work shelves, pay people at the register. even the glass they need to buy to put the jelly in. get the picture? they raise min wage for you, well each of them gets payed more too. and now food goes up. we need job opportunities. it is the only way to fix things
Its simple supply and demand. I've said it 100 times. If its to expensive, DON'T GO!! And if you do go, quit bitching about it. You knew the cost when you went in. Good decision or bad, the choice was yours and yours alone. Own up to it!
Curious drazil, who is it that will create those opportunities?
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us, the little guy. you have to understand our governments influence on business compared to overseas. i can explain if needed. simply put we over regulate and over tax our businesses here. this makes it far harder to get ahead and to be able to compete. this pushes manufacturing overseas. this also keeps us from being able to get people in this country paid, and therefore taxed. the corporatism that replaced capitalism in our country lets the businesses vote in new laws and regulations. understand how big business loves regulations. they understand them and can afford them, but the little guy? not so much. this isn't something you can fix through increasing minimum wage, this starts by bringing down the regulations and the government to help push a incentive to build in this country. btw, i don't think most of your comment was directed to me, since it has nothing to do to my comment.
Construing the fact that a millennial supported a statement with facts and research as a sign of laziness. Good job, the exact definition of the irrational anti-millennial mindset.
There are ALWAYS more wants than money to pay for them. Before cell phones I had >$100 land line bills because long distance calls wer >$0.20 PER MINUTE. You don't HAVE TO buy expensive cable plans and Netflix, you just WANT to. So, bitching that there are more expenses now than before because there's more neat stuff available isn't going to fly. All the millennialist I work with seem to understand that, but it looks like the ones who spend hours a day online and majored in fields that nobody wants to hire can always find somethijng to whine about.
Preach to me more!
You could pinch some more pennies by going to a smaller college.
Curious drazil, who is it that will create those opportunities?