While I understand pregnant women shouldn't be using these substances, theres no way you can enforce it without serious backlash. Sometimes people buy cigarettes or alcohol for others. Sometimes people buy alcohol for recipes, not all alcoholic at the end.
Also, sometimes women look pregnant but aren't. And vice versa and it would be inconvenient and expensive to have people have something saying they're pregnant ( like an ID or a driver's license being changed) and even then they can lie if they look old enough.
I've had to serve alcohol to (seemingly) pregnant women more than once, and had to force servers to do it too against their beliefs. Bills prohibiting this could gain popularity easily; I think that it would put down too much precedence toward the choice debate to be signed into law.
While I think any woman should be able to make that decision for herself: I wish the system could also protect a shopkeeper who made the decision to deny service based off of the health prospects of the child.
And what system will be put in place for the 'fat' women who get insulted/hurt by some judgemental fool refusing to seel her stuff?
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I dunno. Since my paradigm would protect the shopkeeper based off of their concerns for another person's health; the same argument could work against 'fat' people and they would just have to settle with hurt feelings. If you are leaning towards the point the shopkeeper should let people make their own lifestyle choices since they only see a person for a snapshot in their life: you are correct. I was just lamenting on the fact that sometimes not infringing on another person's beliefs can make you act against your own when a paycheck is involved. Potato.
I honestly never even thought about this. What a horrible thing
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It is worth noting that of all of the (seemingly) pregnant women I've seen drinking in places I've worked: none of them had more than one drink. I believe the science shows that it is the abuse of substances that raises likelihood of issues and not the occasional drink or smoke.
Yeah that's the point, this posting is suggesting you should be able to ban it, since it harms the baby. Then again, you could also argue that abortion harms the baby, and that's not illegal.
There's a myriad of reasons why this would never work - it'd be a nightmare to enforce; it'd cost a ton to enforce; it would produce public outcry at the mere mention of it; it's not necessarily medically sound (the stress of quitting smoking can actually be more harmful than smoking, depending on the individual and the specifics of the situation). But mostly, a pregnant woman is still 100% in charge of her own body, and continues to have bodily autonomy. A law cannot be passed that negates that.
If you can't force a person to donate blood against their will, even if it would save someone's life, why can you force a pregnant woman to sacrifice her bodily autonomy in order to be an incubator for another (potential) life? Oh, wait. You can't. There we go.
You know you're actually right! If abortion is illegal, mothers should be incouraged to smoke cigarettes, drink booze and do crack if they want. They shouldn't be just an incubator. They didn't choose to be mothers or may not have even chosen to have sex. I for one support guest in their belief that anyone should be able to do anything they want regardless of the consequences!
Also, sometimes women look pregnant but aren't. And vice versa and it would be inconvenient and expensive to have people have something saying they're pregnant ( like an ID or a driver's license being changed) and even then they can lie if they look old enough.
While I think any woman should be able to make that decision for herself: I wish the system could also protect a shopkeeper who made the decision to deny service based off of the health prospects of the child.
If you can't force a person to donate blood against their will, even if it would save someone's life, why can you force a pregnant woman to sacrifice her bodily autonomy in order to be an incubator for another (potential) life? Oh, wait. You can't. There we go.