To be fair, "sexual assault survivors" as a group doesn't mean everyone the label applies to reacts the same. I'm glad the joke doesn't upset her, but there a lot of other survivors it would upset. This logic is like one person who's been shot and recovered okay rolling their eyes because another person who got shot gets upset when somebody jokes about shooting them again.
A lack of offense does not mean something was a good idea. Something isn't automatically a good idea just because it's deemed "non offensive".
Additionally, the probability of this woman being dishonest here is just as high as her being honest.
She may have just said that to end the discussion, hoping for this exact kind of reaction.
Furthermore, if she was being honest, and finds sexual assault funny, even after experiencing it herself, she likey needs therapy, and a large dose of it.
None of this entire situation is a "win".
I appreciate your logical approach to the post, guest. I don't agree with parts of it, but it's refreshing to see a guest beyond the level of a toddler's speech.
Being a victim of sexual assault doesn't take away your ability to laugh at a joke. I'd know, I was raped when I was a kid and I think this cocktail was funny. Chances are that the people who got offended would get offended even if they didn't experience sexual assault. You know, like the SJWs who get "triggered" when someone makes a joke about stuff that never happened to them.
The fact that nobody has replied and said why they disagree and I was only downvoted by a bunch of butthurt blind sheep only demonstrates my point. If you disagree or take offense in what someone else says, at least say why, because right now you only look like a mob with pitchforks that has no idea where they're going or why.
That's kind of the point of like/dislike buttons. It's so people can say they agree or disagree without having to take the time to argue. Whining that people don't have the time/inclination to have a lengthy conversation with you on an image posting site is a little bit weird, don't you think? Do you complain when people don't explicitly state their reasons for upvoting as well, or are you just angry people dare to disagree?
When you agree, there is usually nothing to add. When you disagree, then there must be a reason behind it. I don't downvote on principle, when I disagree with someone I just reply to them, stating the exact reasons why. Then we can have a discussion and one of us may even change our mind on the subject. That's how communication works. If you're too lazy to reply or your opinions are not principled enough to be put into coherent sentences, then you will never grow as a person, you will never learn. You may be okay with living in a bubble where your opinions never change because they are never challenged. But I'm not. That's exactly how this "offended" thing started in the first place, by people not being able to handle having their opinions challenged. They'd rather censor a silly joke than talk to someone about why they think it's bad. They'd rather take their pitchforks in the form of censorship and downvotes than let you discuss it with them, since your opinion is different.
Many people say they've been assaulted, etc (whatever the topic of conversation is) after their nonsense has been pointed out to them in order to protect their ego. It's like when someone makes an accurate "Your momma" joke and the recipient says "My mom's dead." You know how many people say that when, in reality, their moms are actually alive? A lot. So, all this to say, that the woman in the post may or may not have been lying about being sexually assaulted and it's just plain better to be safe than sorry when making potentially offensive/insulting remarks.
Orrrr, as a sexual assault victim, you could recognize that maybe the rest of us do still have problems with what happened to us and provide some fucking support instead of judging people for not being as "strong" or as "chill" as you are.
Orrrrrrrr, as a sexual assault victim, you can understand that others' wounds heal faster than yours and people should not have to censor their laughter at a joke just because you find it distasteful. If you don't like it, fine, move on, complain. You cannot criticize someone else, especially an assault victim, for laughing at something if it helps them feel better about themselves.
If you need support because you are a victim, why the hell are you looking at a sexual assault joke instead of seeing a professional? The world doesn't have to stop for you and care for you. It will move on without you.
"If you need support because you are a victim, why the hell are you looking at a sexual assault joke instead of seeing a professional?" - so, since I'm a sexual assault victim, I don't have the right to exist outside of my therapist's office?
Also, you may not be aware? But therapy costs money, which, as only a college grad? I don't possess a whole hell of a lot of, and I'm pretty sure most people in my situation possess less, especially because in an office you have to "leave your problems at the door" and, well, some people don't have the luxury of doing that.
You completely missed my point.
I'm saying that as a sexual assault victim, I feel that you should understand that others who have been through the same traumatic experience heal from it and cope with it in the future in different ways.
And that, if someone who has been through the same issue wants to laugh at a sexual assault joke, you cannot criticize them because their pain has been just as valid as yours, and they have been in your shoes.
If you need support for your issue (which is valid, makes sense, no criticism there), and you see someone else laughing at a joke you personally find offensive, you shouldn't tell them something like "I bet you'd feel different if you were in my shoes!" because they very well might have been and they're coping with their pain in a different way. (Continued)
Say there's two women, Jan and Betty, who both have had a miscarriage.
Betty copes with it by taking the pregnancy test and framing it on her wall, because she's traumatized.
Jan copes with it by not doing that and instead moves on quickly. Jan visits Betty's house and sees the pregnancy test.
Is it fair to criticize Betty for interpreting the same situation in her individual way? She has not hurt anyone at all.
"Also, you may not be aware? But therapy costs money, which, as only a college grad? I don't possess a whole hell of a lot of, and I'm pretty sure most people in my situation possess less, especially because in an office you have to "leave your problems at the door" and, well, some people don't have the luxury of doing that."
That's a completely separate issue that has very little bearing on the conversation, but since you brought it up, i guess I'll have to tackle it.
Not everyone is well-off enough to afford therapy. That makes sense. I get that.
Your snarky "You may not be aware" aside, I'm not saying it's "obligated" for you to be able immediately recover from such a traumatic issue, because that would be fucking ridiculous. What I am saying is that, while you may be dealing with some very personal issues, be aware that OTHERS are dealing with the same thing. Regardless of therapy or not, not everyone will react in the same way. You can't criticize someone for their [cont.]
...opinion, believe it or not. Do you know why? It's because an opinion cannot be determined as true or false. It's a subjective observation which is unique to every person who deals with issues like these and I personally see it as unfair that you expect everyone to deal with it in the same way.
Additionally, the probability of this woman being dishonest here is just as high as her being honest.
She may have just said that to end the discussion, hoping for this exact kind of reaction.
Furthermore, if she was being honest, and finds sexual assault funny, even after experiencing it herself, she likey needs therapy, and a large dose of it.
None of this entire situation is a "win".
If you need support because you are a victim, why the hell are you looking at a sexual assault joke instead of seeing a professional? The world doesn't have to stop for you and care for you. It will move on without you.
Also, you may not be aware? But therapy costs money, which, as only a college grad? I don't possess a whole hell of a lot of, and I'm pretty sure most people in my situation possess less, especially because in an office you have to "leave your problems at the door" and, well, some people don't have the luxury of doing that.
I'm saying that as a sexual assault victim, I feel that you should understand that others who have been through the same traumatic experience heal from it and cope with it in the future in different ways.
And that, if someone who has been through the same issue wants to laugh at a sexual assault joke, you cannot criticize them because their pain has been just as valid as yours, and they have been in your shoes.
If you need support for your issue (which is valid, makes sense, no criticism there), and you see someone else laughing at a joke you personally find offensive, you shouldn't tell them something like "I bet you'd feel different if you were in my shoes!" because they very well might have been and they're coping with their pain in a different way. (Continued)
Betty copes with it by taking the pregnancy test and framing it on her wall, because she's traumatized.
Jan copes with it by not doing that and instead moves on quickly. Jan visits Betty's house and sees the pregnancy test.
Is it fair to criticize Betty for interpreting the same situation in her individual way? She has not hurt anyone at all.
That's a completely separate issue that has very little bearing on the conversation, but since you brought it up, i guess I'll have to tackle it.
Not everyone is well-off enough to afford therapy. That makes sense. I get that.
Your snarky "You may not be aware" aside, I'm not saying it's "obligated" for you to be able immediately recover from such a traumatic issue, because that would be fucking ridiculous. What I am saying is that, while you may be dealing with some very personal issues, be aware that OTHERS are dealing with the same thing. Regardless of therapy or not, not everyone will react in the same way. You can't criticize someone for their [cont.]