News flash! There was no hint of Russian influence in the US election either! Just an egotistical losing party who reject the reality that they lost on substance and character.
So what your saying is that due to the severity of the accusation allong with the wide spread coverage, there must be wrong doing?
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Dare i ask... specifically, how did the Russians change even one vote from D to R?
Simply put, they didn't. As in the US, popular vote means nothing and few states have laws dictating that the EC have to vote along constituent lines. All it would take is some greased hands and you have yourself a tampered election. And even assuming Trump won a fair election, his constant interfering with the investigation is not acceptable. As president, you don't put yourself in situations that would even allow your FBI director to have grounds to say what he has, or have your AG recuse himself, or allow your security adviser to be linked in anyway to a foreign government.
If you've been on the internet you know damn well there was Russian influence. Was it illegal? 99.9% of it probably not... about the only part that could be illegal are if the hacks are true.
The stuff that's come out since the election? The ties in Trump's administration, the implied collusion... the financial connections.... and then the obstruction of justice on top of it? Yeah.... like there isn't any fire with all that smoke.
Trump didn't choose Comey, how on earth could he be to blame for Comey's behavior? (BTW Comey's same wreckless behavior was on display throughout the election too, so dont forget H blames him for her lost election. ) The director of the FBI is a subordinate to the president. The president has just as much authority to fire Comey as your boss has to fire you from your job. And he has an equal authority to direct the intelligence agencies on what to and not-to investigate. You say Trump constantly interfering in the investigation yet per Comey's testimony last week, Trump is not, nor has he ever been under investigation for any collusion. This whole dog and pony show is a bunch of smoke and mirrors.
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Recusing yourself is NOT an admission of guilt or against the law.
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If you are referring to ex security advisor Flynn, I agree. He was a bad choice.
To comment on how easy it would be to grease a couple hands to swing the election. How could anyone know which 3 or 4 hands to grease before the election begins? Most of the planet thought H would win in a landslide. After knowing the results and how close a few swing states were it's easy to play Monday night quarterback and say what could have been if only a few votes went another way. It would be impossible to know ahead of time.
Funk, you tok are saying that because of the sevarity and coverage, there must be wrongdoing. Right now, in washington, it's Trump and his cabinet vs the rest of the ruling class (republicans included). How could it be that after 12 month of accusations there is still only smoke. You threw out just about every generalized talking point and key word in your post yet there is not one specific example of wrongdoing. There is only broad accusations and ongoing investigations. Doesnt it seem unlikely that there is nothing to charge him with?
The whole point of the Comey investigation was to prevent another Watergate, regardless of what transpired, it looks like Trump was covering something up. The FBI Director went before Congress and declared that the President wanted the investigation shut down and asked for pledges of loyalty. It looks bad, regardless. It's the same with Sessions (I haven't got to watch his testimony yet). The whole point of this dog and pony show is that Congress is concerned about the rising mistrust of this Admin and the accusations being thrown every which way, by people that are supposed to be running our government.
And the election thing is really kind of second to all of this. IF evidence is found of Russian interference (which in the case of Flynn has been proven) then it stands to reason we should look for other corruption in this Admin all the way back to the campaign. Frankly, that talk of a Special Prosecutor and articles of impeachment being drafted (I recall seeing a motion go before the House about it) 6 months into a new Admin, speaks to how murky this is.
Trump literally threatening Comey in a tweet is written proof of obstruction of justice. The whole "I hope you drop the Flynn investigation" part is moot. Literally threatening the FBI director on twitter where EVERYONE can see is obstruction of justice. The END.
I hear what you're saying but none of this has materialized. It's all hype. Articles of impeachment is another blast to control the voting base. How many things in the last 6 months have been labled "Nixonian"? Most of them?? How can there possibly be that many issues that are impeachable yet not a shred of material evidence?
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Compare it to the Hillary email scandal..... do you believe that was real?
He was trying to influence his testimony by implying that he has "dirt" on Comey through tapes.
It obviously didn't sway Comey, but it's still obstruction of justice though influencing a witness.
sooo... yes, all 3... because he was threatening Comey with something that could potentially send him to jail and coerce him into lying to get out of it. He goes to jail, his family is harmed, his financials are harmed both through paying for lawyers on appeal and future earning potential, and his safety... because jail is just SOOOOOO safe.
No, he threatened Comey with the truth. He essentially said that Comey had better not lie about his interactions because Trump may be able to prove he's wrong. If the truth is what were all after, how could recorded conversations be anything but beneficial? And why is trump the bad guy for thretoning to reveal the truth?
Well the secret service has come out saying there are no recordings. That means Trump lied about it to influence Comey, to scare him. Or he used it to make it look like he had things under control to his supporters. Furthermore Trump is from today under investigation for obstruction of justice. This is the special cabinets doing, the guys who do this for a living decided it was necessary. If you say they are wrong you're just throwing fits at the government you voted for. These systems are in place to make sure there's no illegal happenings in the government. There's no exception. If you want freedome then you need to shut up and accept that Trump MIGHT have done something wrong until he's either proven guilty or not.
I think you misunderstand my point stream. I'm saying there as of right now, he hasn't done anything illegal that we know of. Russia collusion, obstruction of justice, ongoing investigations or any of the other mesia buzz words that you throw out are allegations at best. I do want freedom and i certainly will never blindly support anyone, therefore i'm incredibly eccepting to the fact that he broke the law IF IT'S EVER PROVEN THAT HE BREAKS IT. Furthermore, one of the great things about this country is that you are innocent until proven guilty. Innocence doesnt need to be proven, guilt does.
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So many people assume that if there smoke, theres fire. So all the opposition needs to do is buy a smoke machine and the majority of peole blindly fall in line and start repeating those same, very strategical, key words like "collusion" or "obstruction".
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Seperate Fact from Spin. Your anxiety will fall sharply once you do.
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Dare i ask... specifically, how did the Russians change even one vote from D to R?
The stuff that's come out since the election? The ties in Trump's administration, the implied collusion... the financial connections.... and then the obstruction of justice on top of it? Yeah.... like there isn't any fire with all that smoke.
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Recusing yourself is NOT an admission of guilt or against the law.
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If you are referring to ex security advisor Flynn, I agree. He was a bad choice.
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Compare it to the Hillary email scandal..... do you believe that was real?
It obviously didn't sway Comey, but it's still obstruction of justice though influencing a witness.
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So many people assume that if there smoke, theres fire. So all the opposition needs to do is buy a smoke machine and the majority of peole blindly fall in line and start repeating those same, very strategical, key words like "collusion" or "obstruction".
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Seperate Fact from Spin. Your anxiety will fall sharply once you do.