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guest
· 6 years ago
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I think the actual number was 36 or 42.
creativedragonbaby
· 6 years ago
Ah yes, the 36 billion people in the world
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guest
· 6 years ago
Clarification for the tide pod eaters - 36 or 42 of the richest people instead of 8.
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leincredibleme
· 6 years ago
Eat the rich!
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famousone
· 6 years ago
We should probably burn it to be sure
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deleted
· 6 years ago
I'd say we nuke him from orbit
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guest_
· 6 years ago
It's the only way to be sure.
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famousone
· 6 years ago
Napalm would have less collateral
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asteroid
· 6 years ago
My complete answer: "so?"
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guest_
· 6 years ago
Don't turn around or you might see the several thousand years of recorded history in which a small few have controlled most of the wealth gained by working masses with less. People at the top make the rules, and if you made the rules wouldn't you make them so they made sure that you stayed at the top, that your family and friends were taken care of? But if you don't like it, all you have to do is stop giving rich people your money. Of course that requires sacrifices most people don't want to make, so here we are.
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asteroid
· 6 years ago
How do Microsoft, Apple, Samsung, Facebook, telecommunication companies, technological companies and those industries where these eight people are from create the rules. Don't you think it is time to stop whining about meaningless statistics and start taking responsibility for your own life?
guest_
· 6 years ago
Oh man. I don't have space to explain how economics works in the modern world without writing 4-5 of these. But do you not think that the people who control the infrastructure and data that allow society to function as we know it have power? That politicians with investments or positions on boards of companies don't try to guard those investments? That "too big to fail" is a real thing? Have you ever really looked at corporate histories? That not "hippie oil talk" but we have legitimately sent government forces to depose world leaders so that people like fruit companies could protect their bottom lines? If Facebook vanished tomorrow do you have any idea how devastating it would be? The unemployment not just there but vendors, suppliers, the loss of wealth from stock devaluation and more? Do you think that anyone would let that happen who had anything to lose?
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guest_
· 6 years ago
But yes- I agree that people whine but it's the bottom of the pyramid that feeds the top. Fear of losing what little we have is what keeps people fun Elon money into the pockets of the richest. "I don't have a choice." There's always a choice, if you don't like the consequences and chose the choice you find morally repugnant but convenient that's who you are. Own it and move on.
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asteroid
· 6 years ago
I know they have power. Politicians do shitty things. I know how evil some corporations can be. I am just saying that these statistics are stupid. The conclusion some people reach based on these statistics are also stupid. These people are rich because they are engaging in the market and provide a useful or necessary product or service. Many of them are not evil people. Many of them help others, create useful products and services, employ people, pay taxes, contribute to the society and so on. Wealth is distributed based on two main things, resources and entrepreneurship. Obviously there are some people who gather wealth through theft, rent, and other types of evil deeds.
asteroid
· 6 years ago
Many of these people are rich because they are doing a good job. What do you think happens if Windows vanished tomorrow? or other operating systems, cloud-based systems, security systems. All of these are useful and necessary. However, I emphasize that these statistics are meaningless. Let me give you some other examples of these stats: 95 percent of oil and gas in the world is controlled by a handful of countries; 95 percent of wine production is controlled by two or three countries. The majority of gold in the world is in India. Who freaking cares? Resources are distributed randomly. Many billionaires are living in America because this country has given them the opportunities to become what they are.
asteroid
· 6 years ago
The solution is not to steal money from them, restrict them or make them poor. Think of ways to make other poor people wealthy. Stop thinking backwards. And the last thing, if you want to provide important stats find out how much money dictators of the world steal from their own people. How much Russian oligarchs have stolen from people. What is the make up of these poor people? why are they poor? because of their governments or because of the lack of resources in their countries? Who is helping them or at least trying to help them? What are some of the most evil corporations in the world and why? How can we boycott them to make them pay?
asteroid
· 6 years ago
Another thing: politicians and governments have power to do evil things because people give them power. Nowadays American people are rooting for the government, they want the government to become more powerful. Who the hell helped the banks again when they fucked the economy of the world? Many people have two conflicting thoughts at the same time and I don't know how they can maintain that: government and politicians are helping their friends in big corporations make more money, the solution is to give the government more power to control corporations, raise taxes and get more money and power
guest_
· 6 years ago
We seem to be mostly in agreement. My only contention with your point was that as written, I read your original post to be questioning the idea that those corporations held power, and not questioning the reader as to where they think the source of that power lies. My apologies. Re reading it again it makes more sense to read it that way. It is rather a rather silly circle. People fear the wealthy or corporations have too much power, so they go to a government made up of the same people they are afraid of, then give those people more power in hopes they'll stop themselves. I agree that the world is created by individuals, and our individual choices shape the world. The stock market is not a living creature but people speak of it and other institutions as though they have free will of their own. They're just the collection of the wills of many people. Their actions reflect those wills. Sometimes the only way to win is to not play.
asteroid
· 6 years ago
Thanks and I was speaking generally, didn't mean to offend you or anyone.
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