If the service is good I have no problem tipping over 20% , but it all depends on the waiters attitude . I know it's a stressful job but it's the job you chose .
Honestly, the customer shouldn't be responsible for making sure the waiter has a living wage. The employers need to actually give them a decent wage instead of HOPING people will give their workers extra money.
You're not entitled to me paying extra just because you served me, it's your job. A tip is a tip, and unless they take it out with the bill, you're not guaranteed it and don't get to demand it ? You agreed to your pay when you agreed to the job.
Do you live in the US?
Because it is costumary to tip and is seen as super messed up not too the minimum wadge for waiters is lower because everyone is supposed to tip I mean it kinda works well the best and most polite hardworking waiters bring home the most money and the lazy rude waiters make less
Yes I live in the US, and yes I tip. My point was that tipping isn't mandatory unless they have gratuity in the bill, and that it's super messed up to put the pressure on people just trying to have a meal to make sure that the waiter gets paid. Just because it's customary doesn't mean you're entitled to a tip though, because you chose that job and agreed to the wage.
And the minimum wage is lower because the employers can legally pay them that little since it's expected they'll get tips, even if they don't get enough.
Chicken_nugget - they make minimum wage.
There are some states where the employers are required to pay the full state minimum wage before tips, there are some states that require the Department of Labor Fair Labor Standards Act minimum cash wage before tips ($2.13/hr), and there are some that require a minimum wage above the ($2.13/hr) before tips.
*ALL* states require that the employees earn at least minimum wage after tips. and $5.12 is the maximum tips/hr that can be counted against that.
You're a server work 5 hours, have one hour with $100 in tips, and four hours with no customers and no tips = over minimum wage for the shift, no extra pay from employer; you work 5 hours no customers no tips = employer is required to bring you up to minimum wage not just the $10.65 in minimum cash wage for those hours.
That's because of the great depression. They lowered wages so people would accept tips so they could make money ( after generally not accepting them because it was seen as rude before then) and they never changed it
Hmm, ça doit dépendre des régions car je n'ai jamais entendu ça. Pour ma part, c'est assez rare que je donne un pourboire car je paie en CB et que je n'ai pas de monnaie. L'autre raison, c'est que quand le gouvernement a baissé les taxes en restaurant, les prix n'ont pas baissé sur les cartes.
Anyone saying a tip should be given regardless of service is flat out wrong.
I don’t care if your whole family died in a car crash - nobody pays me a thing if I don’t show up to work.
And if I DO show up and I’m not working like I should be, they will fire me altogether - so sometimes it’s better not to show up at all.
That all being said, if you do show up, do your job as you should be and you will get your tips. It’s a commission job. That’s it that’s all. People just choose not to look at it that way so they can complain.
If you want a tip, earn it, just like anyone else in a commission paid position. If not, keep being mediocre and complaining- and see where that gets you. I’ve worked COMMISION-ONLY positions since I was 19. I don’t get paid a wage. But at 25 I have a very expensive apartment downtown, a luxury car and a lot of disposable income. With no “guarantee” of money - like salaries or hourly wages.
2/2 and it’s not like I haven’t had misfortune or turmoil in life. But I get over it, show up, work hard, and deliver. You always get our what you put in. ALWAYS.
If my service is great, I leave close to 40%. If my service is decent it’ll be 15% - 25%. And if it’s poor or atrocious, I will consider not tipping to maybe 10%.
The people who care to improve and perform will take that as a lesson and get better. Those who don’t care, won’t - and really can’t be taught anyway. So no harm done either way. They will complain and whine regardless.
Working on commissions means you get a percentage of whatever you sell though... Your pay is literally based off of what or how much you sell as well, hence the no hourly wage. It's not really the same. Because even if you provide mediocre service and still sell something, you get paid based off what it is. Sell cars? Thats still a nice check. Furniture? That's pricey too. Real estate? Same thing.
But you can give fantastic service to someone who takes up your table for 4 hours, runs you ragged, and they leave you a $5 tip on a $150 check. You make maybe $5/hr, if you're lucky. So you've now busted your ass for 4 hours, and made $25- before taxes. You don't have to like tipping as a custom, but realize that by holding onto that arrogant attitude you're not helping anyone except yourself. You only hurt whoever is unlucky enough to have to serve you.
Unless you've served tables/worked for tips, no opinion. Y'all are mostly teenagers anyway. And let me tell you, as an adult who waitresses to pay her my way through law school, teenagers are the shittiest tippers. Have some respect. In most states, they get paid $2 an hour, and their paycheck equal out to nothing because of tax. The service industry survives on tips. Just saying.
I hate when ppl have this,” I tip based off of service.” Attitude. Like I get it, if a server just flat does not serve you, don’t tip. But BUT ppl get all high and mighty for some reason and want to take a persons pay away because of some tiny infraction. What if that happened in other work places? Like all right Karen you didn’t fucking file this paper fast enough no pay for you today.
Its not just tip or no tip depending on how amazing the service is depends on the percentage im not paying 20 percent less they are extremely attentive. I mean ill give 15 for good service but the server is not entitled to 20 percent.
I gave you a couple of up votes, simply because not everyone can be 100% everyday, the server could have a sick baby or anything else that we would let a coworker slack off for, maybe sneak out early , who knows. There is a difference in someone having a shit attitude and a bad day and I think most of us can tell the difference . Some customers just want someone to brow beat.
Well thanks lol but It’s fine ppl can downvote idc at all, Im in college and I’ve waited tables and I’ve seen the best and worst of customers. Like you said some ppl just want to kick around a server. Some of the users here obviously have never worked in the serving industry based on these opinions. That’s their problem though.
Where you work really impacts the tips you get. Some people get high and mighty assuming every single server should get a high percentage tip no matter the restaurant, no matter the service. If it's a buffet, you tip lower but you do still tip if they're refilling your drinks and taking plates away, if it's terrible you don't tip well, if you're ordering mixed alcoholic drinks at a place with a bar you tip extra so the server isn't paying out the tip on money they didn't get. But at the end of the day the people whining over and over that they've got it so rough, they are guaranteed the equivalent of minimum wage for the duration of their shift, that means if they have two amazing hours and the overall total divides out to minimum wage then they don't get extra for the terrible hours, but if they have a full shift with no customers they don't earn $2-3/hr, they get minimum wage. If you want to earn more, find a way to get a job at a more expensive/better clientele restaurant.
You're not entitled to me paying extra just because you served me, it's your job. A tip is a tip, and unless they take it out with the bill, you're not guaranteed it and don't get to demand it ? You agreed to your pay when you agreed to the job.
Because it is costumary to tip and is seen as super messed up not too the minimum wadge for waiters is lower because everyone is supposed to tip I mean it kinda works well the best and most polite hardworking waiters bring home the most money and the lazy rude waiters make less
And the minimum wage is lower because the employers can legally pay them that little since it's expected they'll get tips, even if they don't get enough.
There are some states where the employers are required to pay the full state minimum wage before tips, there are some states that require the Department of Labor Fair Labor Standards Act minimum cash wage before tips ($2.13/hr), and there are some that require a minimum wage above the ($2.13/hr) before tips.
*ALL* states require that the employees earn at least minimum wage after tips. and $5.12 is the maximum tips/hr that can be counted against that.
You're a server work 5 hours, have one hour with $100 in tips, and four hours with no customers and no tips = over minimum wage for the shift, no extra pay from employer; you work 5 hours no customers no tips = employer is required to bring you up to minimum wage not just the $10.65 in minimum cash wage for those hours.
I don’t care if your whole family died in a car crash - nobody pays me a thing if I don’t show up to work.
And if I DO show up and I’m not working like I should be, they will fire me altogether - so sometimes it’s better not to show up at all.
That all being said, if you do show up, do your job as you should be and you will get your tips. It’s a commission job. That’s it that’s all. People just choose not to look at it that way so they can complain.
If you want a tip, earn it, just like anyone else in a commission paid position. If not, keep being mediocre and complaining- and see where that gets you. I’ve worked COMMISION-ONLY positions since I was 19. I don’t get paid a wage. But at 25 I have a very expensive apartment downtown, a luxury car and a lot of disposable income. With no “guarantee” of money - like salaries or hourly wages.
If my service is great, I leave close to 40%. If my service is decent it’ll be 15% - 25%. And if it’s poor or atrocious, I will consider not tipping to maybe 10%.
The people who care to improve and perform will take that as a lesson and get better. Those who don’t care, won’t - and really can’t be taught anyway. So no harm done either way. They will complain and whine regardless.
But you can give fantastic service to someone who takes up your table for 4 hours, runs you ragged, and they leave you a $5 tip on a $150 check. You make maybe $5/hr, if you're lucky. So you've now busted your ass for 4 hours, and made $25- before taxes. You don't have to like tipping as a custom, but realize that by holding onto that arrogant attitude you're not helping anyone except yourself. You only hurt whoever is unlucky enough to have to serve you.