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tlbomb
· 6 years ago
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i like trains...
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silvermyth
· 6 years ago
??? Wouldn’t they both know if one was going to get it from a donor?
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pokethebear
· 6 years ago
She’s a cheater
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silvermyth
· 6 years ago
Why would she do that, this is poorly thought out
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pokethebear
· 6 years ago
Ummm, she’s bi and enjoys riding dick from time to time? Just guessing.
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tony007
· 6 years ago
Is that ASDF?
guest
· 6 years ago
Statistically a child raised in a normal family unit (biological parents, in wedlock) will have an advantage over children of these new models of “family”
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pokethebear
· 6 years ago
I don’t know why your comment had a red arrow, it’s a statistical fact.
jasonmon
· 6 years ago
Link?
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guest
· 6 years ago
It may be a fact, but I don’t like how guest said “family” as if lesbian/gay people can’t be a family.
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jasonmon
· 6 years ago
I agree with you guest two, and I suspect there will be no link. I think guest one is just clumsily projecting how they feel into other people's reality and trying to sound like an authority. That being said, I'd be fascinated to read any true, scientifically-rigorous research on the subject. I poked around for a couple of minutes, but didn't find anything.
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pokethebear
· 6 years ago
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-1027-goldberg-family-structure-20151027-column.html?outputType=amp
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jasonmon
· 6 years ago
*sigh* Thank you for taking the time to find this. Firstly, it concerns me that it's an LA Times opinion column and not a scientifically rigorous study. Secondly, only one source is cited in the article, the Institute of Family Studies, which has a known bias (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/institute-for-family-studies/). Thirdly, they don't say much; here's a quick quote: "In other words, every sweeping statement that the traditional family is best must come with a slew of caveats...." This is a cherry picked opinion column from a biased party. It's trying to address every kind of upbringing, and it makes sweeping generalizations. What I'd like to see, and what doesn't exist yet because it's too new, is a study on if a child raised in one model of family has some sort of an advantage over a child raised in a different model of family. This opinion piece talks about downsides with orphanages and adoptive families, but doesn't address gay parents at all. The working hypothesis
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jasonmon
· 6 years ago
right now is that a child in a loving family will have mental health advantages over a child in a non-loving family. Supporting this in a scientific way will take decades. The problem I this thread and in that article is that we're equating foster/adopted kids and children of gay parents. (Obviously, at least one of the parents is adoptive in the second setup.) If you look closer, the traditional foster/adopted kids tend to have a disadvantage because they were pulled out of some sort of trauma early in their development. Whether or not they have loving adoptive parents won't erase that damage and they'll be at a disadvantage later in life because of the trauma. If you raise a child in a loving, non-traditional family with no early trauma, do you still come up with a damaged adult? That's the question no one has answered. It seems to me the adult would be just fine. It seems to you the adult would be damaged. We just have to agree to disagree for the next few decades
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jasonmon
· 6 years ago
while enough children are raised this way in order to get a fair sample and make an informed determination.
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silvermyth
· 6 years ago
That is the opinion column
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jasonmon
· 6 years ago
Oh yeah, that's my main point. Your tl;dr game's on fleek @silvermyth, thx.
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silvermyth
· 6 years ago
I didn't see your bit, I had a tab open prepared to comment at some point and it hadn't loaded yours. You've put something together really well, I agree with you.