Vietnam yes, and maybe Iraq, but even the Soviets weren't brutal enough to take Afghanistan
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The US army did unspeakable things in Vietnam and still got their asses whooped, fled the country and left their "allies" for the vietcong to eat them alive, they completely fucked up Iraq for decades to come (which they invaded for money based on the biggest, fattest lies in modern history) and the Taliban haven't stopped laughing at the "greatest military power in the world", calling US soldiers the name they have for those pre-pubescent little boys their leaders like to dress up as girls, have them dance for them and then rape them. Bunch of pussies and loosers.
We talk about Vietnam all te the time, to learn from it.
We didn't get whooped, for every dead Joe we got hundreds of Charlies. We didn't flee, we fulfilled every military objective given to us. If at any time the objective was to "Kill every commie in the country and hold the land", we would have accomplished it. Problem was, nobody in power had the balls to give the order.
Iraq was being bled dry by Saddam and his ilk before we went back to finish the job, and we didn't go on a lie. We found WMDs, yellowcake, and nuclear facilities, and that was just one of twelve reasons Bush had for going. And you were right about Haji laughing at us, but he never stood up to fight us, and we accomplished every military objective given to us. Thankfully, in 2016, the objective went from "Win the hearts of the enemy" to "Kill every one to poke their heads out of their caves, and drop a MOAB on the ones who don't". On a three months deployment the Rangers killed thousands of them. Who's laughing?
"We didn't flee, we fulfilled every military objective given to us" - yeah, the last "objective" in Vietnam being "get your asses the fuck outta there and leave everything and everyone behind to get mauled by the vietcong". Mission accomplished. "The USA didn't find Jack in Iraq, and killed a number of times more people than Saddam ever did. Civilians, that is. Unjtil Trump, the world hated you, now they hate you and laugh at you at the same time. Quite the achievement.
Sometimes shit happens when civilians don't let warfighters do their jobs. Vietnam was an unfortunate example of that.
And we found WMDs, yellowcake, and nuclear facilities. That's indisputable. Saddam was an extremist who wouldn't have stopped.
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· 4 years ago
"Sometimes shit happens when civilians don't let warfighters do their jobs. "- textbook fascism. You're playing yourself right now.
The soldiers didn't decide to go to Vietnam. They were trained to kill the enemy and take control, and then leadership told them to wander around and wait to get shot or blown up instead.
It doesn't make me a fascist to want our soldiers to win the fights we're sent into, it makes politicians cruel for sending them in handicapped.
Daddy gets sent to war, a flag comes back, and the congressman who voted to send him decides that clearly we're being too mean to the enemy.
How about this, don't send us to fight a war you don't want us to win.
We didn't get whooped, for every dead Joe we got hundreds of Charlies. We didn't flee, we fulfilled every military objective given to us. If at any time the objective was to "Kill every commie in the country and hold the land", we would have accomplished it. Problem was, nobody in power had the balls to give the order.
Iraq was being bled dry by Saddam and his ilk before we went back to finish the job, and we didn't go on a lie. We found WMDs, yellowcake, and nuclear facilities, and that was just one of twelve reasons Bush had for going. And you were right about Haji laughing at us, but he never stood up to fight us, and we accomplished every military objective given to us. Thankfully, in 2016, the objective went from "Win the hearts of the enemy" to "Kill every one to poke their heads out of their caves, and drop a MOAB on the ones who don't". On a three months deployment the Rangers killed thousands of them. Who's laughing?
And we found WMDs, yellowcake, and nuclear facilities. That's indisputable. Saddam was an extremist who wouldn't have stopped.
It doesn't make me a fascist to want our soldiers to win the fights we're sent into, it makes politicians cruel for sending them in handicapped.
Daddy gets sent to war, a flag comes back, and the congressman who voted to send him decides that clearly we're being too mean to the enemy.
How about this, don't send us to fight a war you don't want us to win.