Jimmy Carter = legend

I’m not saying he was terrible, but after e fiasco that was watergate, there was no way a republican was winning that election. Ford was the candidate and after being appointed by Nixon as VP, people just wanted out of that administration.

Nixon only promised our ally that he would continue to support him if the North broke the treaty. Less then a day later, big surprise, the north broke the treaty.
The War on Drugs was started because 1 in 2 Americans agreed that drug abuse was a major problem. Locking up Soviet-infiltrated hippies was just a bonus. I don't know about you, but I'm hardly inclined to believe a former aid in a demonized administration decades after the fact.
Paranoid nut he may have been, the good Nixon did outweighs the bad.

Why the fuck would you believe anything Nixon said about anything? Your default worship of authoritarians?

I didn't say either of those things.

The war on drugs happened because Nixon saw it as a route to preserving his power. Soviet allied hippies, what a dumb thing to say!

The Soviets were using the counterculture to sow discord and sabotage American politics, industry, and military. We suspected for decades, some defectors corroborated, and it was confirmed when the wall came down.
There are much more effective ways to consolidate power.

Just like the modern infiltration of the NRA and GOP by the Russians.

You can't see it, but I rolled my eyes so hard they fell out of their sockets.

The person who describes Nixons War on Drugs (which caused the american society more bodies and money than the vietnam war) as "Locking up Soviet-infiltrated hippies" talking about rolling eyes, that's rich. Did I ever mention he's a textbook fascist?

No, that was just a happy bonus. The war on drugs started because Americans thought drugs were a problem.

Faschism is a bonus to you? If you really do wear a uniform you are a disgrace to it.

Are you illiterate or something? I never said anything about fascism.

"That was a happy bonus". What were you refering to with this sentence?

Locking up the hippie pieces of shit that spit on my brothers.

Not a fan of political dissent. Not that you are faschist or anything....

Whenever I meet a 'Nam veteran, I do not mindlessly say "Thank you for your service", I say "Welcome home", the words they should've heard when first got back from the jungle.
Wave your signs, vote, pray, whatever. But don't ever come after my brothers. I don't care if you're Haji or a goddamned congressmen.

People who tried to end the vietnam war didn't "come after your brothers", they exercised their first amendment rights. and what Nixon did was pretending to execute (absurd) drug laws to come after these people because he could not legally prosecute them for the real reason. Your praising him for that is just one of many, many reasons I'm calling you a fascist.

They did come after my brothers. Don't you dare try to deny that.
America wanted drugs off the street, that hippies were the sort to use that trash was just a bonus.

The Cold War ended because the Soviet Union was bankrupt from years of mismanagement. Nixon didn't do it, Reagan didn't do it, they did it to themselves.

The Space Race, military buildup, Afghanistan and other proxy wars, we bled those fuckers dry.

I'm not disagreeing with you on the basis that the Americans had something to do with it, but there was no way the Soviet Union could have succeeded. They weren't that strong militarily or economically, they just hid their faults behind a veneer of perfection. The Americans outlasted the Soviets, nothing more.

We stopped them. We contained them.

We contained absolutely shit. The communists overstretched themselves in Eastern Europe, Korea was a staging war for Vietnam AND the last colonial war, and Vietnam was a debacle. I think a massive misunderstanding here is the idea that communism is synonymous with the USSR, which is simply not true.

It's like he doesn't get that we have enough to be proud of without lying.

The fights in South and Central America, the proxy wars all over the world, the military build-ups, the Space Race, you're really trying to say none of that mattered?

You mean the racist Banana wars fought for Dole that are responsible for genocide and mass migration? You are proud of that war crime epidemic?

The Banana Wars were fought for several reasons, such as kicking Europeans out of the Americas, stabilizing warring regions for our own national security and economic interests (particularly to fix the conditions that were pushing so many refugees to our borders), killing dictators and tyrants that were attempting to consolidate power, and backing the nations and factions that were peaceful or friendly to us. I actually am proud of them, those wars were fought for purely for America's benefit, culled Euro colonialism, and actually put down a lot of racist and genocidal fucks intent on pulling a Hitler before even Hitler.
But we've digressed, the topic of conversation was the Cold War, which is separated from the Banana Wars by a few decades and actually involved a couple of different continents.

This is just a list of latin american countries where the USA removed mostly democratically elected governments or at least played a major part to replace them with their corrupt and fascist accomplices: 1965 Dominican Republic, 1970-73 Chile, 1972 Honduras, 1976 Argentine, 1981-856 Nicaragua, 1982-92 El Salvador, 1983 Grenada, 1986 Bolivia, 1989/90 Panama, 1991 Haiti. But what do democratically elected governments mean to someone like fascistone?
Oh, and while we're talking about pot smoking hippies, let's not forget how the us government actively helped south american druglords to ship tons of cocaine to the USA, the motherland of the war on drugs, fueling the crack epidemic there.

"Democratically". Also worth noting that every time you mentioned is post-Banana Wars.
The CIA didn't help ship anything, they just taught the anti-communist forces how to make the shit as a means to raise their own funds. The United States wasn't the only place they shipped to, but we had the "advantage" of having more disposable income, being geographically closer, having weak borders, and an ongoing drug epidemic creating a high demand, so that's how it worked out.
It was dirty and hurt a lot of people, but the only alternatives were letting Soviet proxies have South and Central America, or engaging in open warfare that would've quickly turned into "WWIII: In Space", and we all know that the third installment of any series is usually the worst.

Destabilizing Latin America allowed the cartel to take over. Genocide is nothing to be proud of, conservatives are forever stained with blood.

Before we ever went south Latin America was dealing with her own conflicts, civil wars, atrocities, and revolutions. Hate to break it to you, but you can't pin every bad thing to ever happen on America, much less on any single party.
Also, the United States never carried out a genocide, admittedly that's not for lack of trying on the Democrats' part.

I said "mostly democratically" as most, but not all were properly elected and what difference does it make if it was pre or post "banana wars"? And most of all the "advantage" of the USA in the iran/contra affair was a government that gave a shit about laws and decency and their own assertions. And shut the fuck up with the "there was no alternative" bullcrap, that's even beyond your very, very low standards. One alternative to usurping foreign governments just like you please would be not to do it? Since the late 1960s it was super obvious to anyone with a brain that the soviets didn't have any of the means necessary to pose a threat to the US in latin-american countries. So they could have just waited how thing s worked out if it was only to prevent a threat to the US. The main reason for most interventions was to prevent a threat to american business interests posed by governments unwilling to sell their people.

Because the political, economic, military, and global conditions were entirely different between the Banana Wars and the Cold War, it matters which era is being discussed.
True that the Soviets couldn't touch us in the 60s, that is exactly why they were trying to consolidate their power by stoking civil wars and causing regime changes in Africa, Asia, and South America. Literally every marginally significant nation in history tried to affect other nations for their benefit. If we know somebody wants to hurt us, why the fuck would we wait for them to move in next door before doing anything about it? Especially when that costs us influence over the Americas and hurts our economic interests? There's nothing wrong with using the military to defend your economy, that's literally half the original reason to have a military, and everybody of any margin of significance or success has done it, your country included.
The regimes didn't give two shits about their people, they enslaved them first

Trying to act high and mighty, or downplay the evil of the old regimes, is disingenuous at best.

Yeah, I get how a fascist thinks believing in law and order and treaties is "acting high and mighty" and the one who's drawing faster is right. And fuck off reminding me of my countries history. This very history makes me an anti-fascist. Our history has a few things we can be proud of, but the very greatest thing we ever did was actively remembering our past and trying to prevent it from happening again. Or, in your world, being limp-dick cucks.

Are you ever going to have a response that isn't name calling? Besides that, y'all don't keep your treaties. Your "law and order" has no respect for freedom of speech (putting it much closer to fascist than anything I've ever said), and living in the past hasn't been doing anybody any good.
Now don't put words in my mouth, I've never called anybody a "limp-dick cuck", I recognize the phrasing enough to know that you're conflating me with assholes that nobody likes. But if the boot fits...

The US helped back the overthrow of the popular and democratically elected president of Chile because he was a communist. They overlooked the bombing of Orlando Letellier in DC because the perpetrator was an agent of Pinochet. There are plenty of Latin American skeletons in the US closet.

Yeah, there are.

Calling you a fascist is not name-calling. And here it's just different words you can't say than in the US. The difference in freedom is like the difference between Pepsi and Coke . And the treaties we don't keep are just different from those the US doesn't keep. I'm aware of europe's faults and bodies in the basement (though it's not a fraction as bad than what Fox says). You however, still justify what Nixon did (remember?) and what your country did in latin america. And your argument is basically "cause 'murrica", and that's pretty pitiable.

The difference in freedom is like the difference between being told off or being arrested.
The treaties we don't keep are the ones that were never legal as Congress didn't ratify them.
And I don't watch Fox news, so I can't comment on what they say about anything.
Nixon was bad, but not a monster, much of what he did was actually good (I listed those out earlier), and any nation who doesn't act in it's own interest is just fucking over it's own people more than nations usually do.
The United States is the absolute worst there is, except for everybody else.

- No it's not like that, try fantasizing about killing the head of government in germany and the us, just one of many examples of shit you can say in germany but not in the us.
- The treaty thing is also either a lack of information or straight cherry picking.
- If it's not Fox, then who? Alex Jones? Rush Limbaugh? Cause you're definitely spreading fake information all the time.
- And what you liked in the first place was Nixon incarcerating people allegedly for using a plant (which is wack enough) while actually it was for having a different opinion. Fa-sci-sm.

-Neither of our countries tolerate credible threats to anybody.
-Source?
-CNN, MSNBC, Local stations (changes by city, base, and state), and I look up what the CoC seems to be worried about as mentioned. I actually don't glue myself to news stations because the bullshit is overwhelming and infuriating. Like some stations still insisting that President Trump is a Russian spy who manufactured the border crisis and avowed white supremacists.
-I don't give two shits what hippies' opinions are, but I also don't give two shits whatever bad happens to motherfuckers who attacked my brothers. Men and boys coming back from a year in hell deserve a hug and a "Welcome home", not to be called "baby killers" while being smeared in mud and feces.

And that has zero (0) to do with what I said. There we are again.

I literally went point by point addressing what you said.

Didn't say you didn't address it.