Thanks, Obama

He's been a problem across at least 3 administrations. He's largely responsible for what's been going on in the region that has been creating problems for decades.
Nevermind that he planned the attack on our embassy, is responsible for killing Americans, trained the motherfuckers we've been fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria, as well as half of Africa and parts of Asia, and, lest anyone forget, was actively directing strikes against Americans.
He's a large part of why the region is volatile, and he took every opportunity to make it worse.
We should fix ourselves, but cutting without killing the bad guys will only come back to bleed us.
Don't forget, attacking an American Embassy is the same as attacking the State Department.
Trump didn't start a war, Iran's been fighting a war against us and all of the west, plus Isreal and Saudi Arabia, since 1979.
Bush should've killed him.
Obama should've killed him.
Trump did.

Trump killed him illegally. There are ways to go about eliminating threats that don’t involve violating the law.

Illegally? Explain. Last I checked, the Commander in Chief has every right to initiate military force, specifically so that he can respond to targets of opportunity, maintain OPSEC, and make decisions that congress would take too long to deliberate.
But he shouldn't need those defenses to kill a terrorist leader actively operating against American forces.

Should we have arrested Al-Baghdadi and Bin Laden? Maybe let Congress talk it over in front of FOX and CNN? Should we have extended that courtesy to ISIS, the Iraqi Republican Guard? Grenada? Viet Cong? PRC and DPRK? Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan?

Because Soleimani was not an imminent threat to others and the attack killed four other people at the same time. Those facts make it illegal by international law and potentially qualify it to be an act of terrorism.

Not an imminent threat? International law?
Get real. Hostile general officers are legitimate military targets. He coordinated attacks against us very recently, nevermind the decades he's spread terrorism and atrocity across Eurasia and Africa.
That's a weak argument, akin to saying we shouldn't try to kill Hitler because the bomb might kill civilians in Berlin. Like saying we shouldn't have pulled Saddam from his hole in the dirt because it might bruise him. Like saying we shouldn't have gone after Bin Laden or al-Baghdadi because their families were at risk of crossfire.
He did worse than Bin Laden could've imagined, quite likely that he played a hand in supporting and training AQ fighters. We should have parades, fireworks, and celebrations to celebrate the event. Tactically we interrupted Iranian attacks on Americans, strategically we neutered Iran's ability to directly and indirectly sow terror and brutality throughout the region.
The Houthi? ISIS? Taliban? Hezbollah? Him.

Soleimani and his Quds Force have been labelled as terrorists for years now. This was just like any other drone operation against terrorists. We still have continuing resolutions funding the “Global War on Terror,” and authorizing force. This guy trained Hezbollah who targets our ally Israel. The guy was in Iraq, he came from either Lebanon, or Syria, and he has been sanctioned by the UN and is not supposed to be able to travel outside of Iran. These militias that Iran has been funding and who are sworn to the Ayatollah of Iran are attacking sites containing Iraqi’s and Americans. Iran shot down our drone, we gave them a pass. They have harassed our allies’ ships, we gave them a pass. They harass our ships, they get a pass. They used drones to attack Saudi oil fields, everyone gave them a pass. This time they killed an American. That was a redline.

Just because you can justify it in your mind as deserved doesn’t make it legal. That’s how laws work. We were in a military conflict with both Saddam and Hitler’s nations so different rules. We used a surgical military action to get Bin Laden. Why didn’t we just blow up the house he was in with rockets? Precisely because we didn’t want to kill his family or any other innocents if at all possible because that is part of the agreement with the international community that we signed up for. Now you can move to your rant about how America shouldn’t listen to anyone else because we are so much better than they are because freedom.

Oops. Almost forgot. He was not an imminent threat to others. Kind of the same way you can shoot a mugger with a gun but you can’t shoot the guy who sold it to him or the guy who taught him to use it.

We are in conflict with Iran. None of the incidents I listed were fabricated. As for Bin Laden, we didn't use rockets because we wanted to both confirm the kill and send a message to Pakistan for harboring him.
Nevermind killing the guy who sold the gun, try killing the guy who violated his restraining order to kill your brothers and sisters. After decades of killing your cousins and siblings and trying to light your neighbor's on fire.

Being in conflict and being in a declared military conflict are very different things. And yes, your example is also murder.

And I suppose that makes my brothers and countrymen less dead?

Nope. Just makes you no better than any other murderer.

Except morally, ethically, spiritually, and every other way that matters.

That is the reasoning of every extremist. It’s ok to kill Americans because they are immoral, unethical infidels. You know, all the ways that matter...

Are you really arguing to put legality above personal morals and ethics? Slavery was legal once. So was the Holocaust. Girls are legally married to their rapists at 9 or younger.
Nevermind that. It's completely irrelevant to the conversation. POTUS didn't break any American laws.

I didn’t say he did. I said he broke international law. And yes, I put that in very high regard since it’s integral to our global civilization. Morals and ethics vary by individual but we, as a species, have come together to agree on certain rules that we hold ourselves to despite who we are. I’m sure, being in the military, you are pretty happy with the fact the Geneva Convention exists as an example. But none of it works if, as I predicted you would say, we act like the rules don’t apply to us because we are somehow superior.

I would like the Geneva Convention, if only the other side gave a damn. Instead I'm hamstrung and haji lights my brothers on fire.
And don't mistake international law for anything meaningful. Unless you'd let the likes of Charles Manson or El Chapo legislate and enforce laws in your neighborhood.
We are superior, until we forfeit it or someone takes it away. Comes with being the greatest country in the world.

You are delusional if you think the USA is still the greatest country in the world. All this attack is going to do is put us in another endless war.

We've been at war with Iran for decades already.
Oh, and General Fuckface broke international laws on the regular. It wasn't the UN that stopped him.

Even if the US is the greatest country in the world it immediately loses that title if it commits war atrocities. It sucks that the other guys are doing it but we don’t let the police torture people for confessions just because the criminals aren’t following the rules. Two wrongs don’t make a right and the US should be strong enough to be the example. If we have to fight dirty then we are just weak. Edit: BTW, how did Charles Manson get involved?

It ain't our job to be any kind of example. A nation's only obligation is to it's own principles and people. Anything else is superfluous at best, and likely a disservice to it's people. And here's a thing about fights. Bring a knife to a gun fight, or anything less then absolute dedication to the mission, and best case scenario is Vietnam or the quagmire Bush and Obama created.
Nobody ever won a war by dying for their beliefs, you win by making the other poor dumb son of a bitch die for his.
The US wouldn't exist in the first place if we didn't fight dirty.
For fuck's sake, we crossed a frozen river on Christmas to slit the throats of sleeping Loyalists.

That was a different time when the global economy wasn’t as critical. We are now part of a larger community upon which, whether you like it or not, we are dependent. We can’t act like the US is some stand alone beacon of awesomeness that can fend for itself. That attitude didn't work in the early 20th century and it is unrealistic to try to maintain today. As a country we are a giant retarded teenager but doesn’t excuse us from our duty to maintain the rules of war that we helped craft whether or not they are inconvenient.

Want us to play by the rules? Send us to fight sometime who can at least read them. We won't stay on top by handicapping ourselves.

I want our military to play by the rules against every enemy but at the same time I don’t want you guys fighting anyone in the Middle East. I’d be perfectly happy if they all packed up and came home.

Until the next Saddam, Bin Laden, or al-Baghdadi pops up.

Nah, our presence in the Middle East is what created all three of them. Keep them contained to the region and let them sort it out. If they want a Caliphate then let them have it. Wouldn’t be the first.

We said that about a certain German man. Once.
Genie's out of the bottle now, we gotta snap his neck before we can Foxtrot Oscar.

I mean if you wanna make comparisons to hitler, he was a man who gained power through capitalizing on the hatred and fear of the people due to the changing political climate, while calling it patriotism with the slogan “make Germany great again”
Wonder who else that applies to

He also used mob tactics and twisted government laws and regulations to consolidate power for himself, take over the media, abolish opposition everywhere from education to the lowest offices, including NGOs, disarm people, and used government authority to stop people from acting or voting "against their own interests". Oh, and he was a socialist.

You can't win that fight, now back to the issue at hand.

I mean trump literally uses mob tactics to silence the people testifying against him and has changed plenty of laws to make himself more money, Not to mention his whole campaign about villainizing media outlets that speak badly of him, but go off ig. If you’re so wary of the next rising dictator, or the next holocaust, shouldn’t you be looking into China where they’re literally putting Muslims in concentration camps? Or Russia where they’re doing the same thing? Or are you just incapable of seeing the bigger picture
(There’s also been a surge in voter registrations being denied in democrat majority regions by the republicans in charge, so keep talking about restricting voting)

The only thing you said that is factually correct is the Muslim concentration camps in China and Russia. The rest is bullshit, and you should damn well know it.
The executive has privilege until the SCOTUS deems otherwise. Asking the House to abide by precedent established by Washington himself is nowhere near the same as wearing black masks and bashing the opposition party's supporters with bike locks and ice picks. Trump is losing billions, even as the economy soars, thanks entirely to him killing the regulations that stalled our recovery from the recession. He didn't villainize the media for being mean, he's calling them out for abandoning investigative integrity, fairness, and for further widening the canyon between Americans, almost as bad as Obama did.
And here's the thing about voter registration, you have to be alive. You have to be a citizen. And you have to have a current and maintained residence in the district you want to vote in.

So you're either willfully ignorant, or MSNBC is reporting in a manner to make routine confirmation that a person can legally vote in a particular district into something that makes Republicans look bad.

My dude bro, I think it’s about time you stop watching fox and try to find something less biased. There’s reason trump was impeached outside of the left hating him, it wasn’t a witch hunt, maybe he’s just a bad fuckin dude who’s only hurt the country and it’s reputation thus far?

And if that reason had any real weight, slightly more house members than ALMOST all of the Democrats would've voted to impeach.

Democrats can have shit values too man, a party shouldn’t be, and isnt, a hive mind

There was never any doubt he'd be impeached. The Left was screeching for it before he could even swear in.

Ok boomer

Am I wrong? Because you are.

You done yet? Because honestly, I find you morally wrong. You think death is the answer to everything, and I can already tell you only like trump because he says and does all the things you wish you’ve done, but haven’t, because it’s morally reprehensible in society. You’re not loyal to a person you find good for yourself, or your country though. You’re loyal to the idea of tearing down the opposite party because the vast majority of those of that party think you should have higher standards, and shouldn’t bring down other people because of their downfalls in life. So yes, In shorter terms, I find you extremely wrong, and you don’t want to admit your idealistic faults despite everyone else with a brain knowing

Uh huh.

Let’s be honest here, if someone from the Democratic Party did everything trump currently has, you’d be shitting yourself over how corrupt they are. Now keep on defending trump like a mindless sheep

Glad we’ve come to an agreement

If the Democrats did what Trump is doing I'd be one.