Best/worst is a terrible way to decide on a course, and it ain't a stock dip we're worried about. Now stop regurgitating what your professor manages to ramble about in between Woodstock stories, and actually read the measures proposed and learn a bit about industry and money.
Speaking of regurgitating [insert derogatory descriptor]...
I think the bit about the stock market taking a little dip is purposefully downplaying the weight of the changes. Yeah, it’s a lot more complicated than a little dip. But also, none of it will matter if the planet’s ecosystems collapse, or we all starve to death or all die of rampant disease.
Again, it’s not a zero sum game. Just because we take climate change seriously doesn’t mean we all have to become vegan hippies. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.
Destroying the global economy, farming, agriculture, transportation, and cows will hurt us. Quickly and irreparably.
Not taxing cow farts, on the other hand, will not destroy the world or hurt everyone.
You wanna save the environment? Target India, the EU, and China. And then tell every developing nation in the world that they get to starve and die of sickness, and live in squalor, because the polar bears will be dead before 2015.
Sorry, I think you don’t realize this, but I didn’t suggest we destroy economy, industry and agriculture. What I did say, is that climate change is important and if we don’t pay attention we aren’t going to have to worry about economy, industry and agriculture.
In other words, if you drive the car off the cliff, it won’t matter if the tire is flat or not. So, let’s go ahead and maintain the bridge because if it goes out, the quality of our tires won’t matter.
Yeah, let’s listen to the bridge experts, not the gunpowder experts, when we decide whether the bridge is fine or not. Because the bridge experts, aka climate scientists (not climate change scientists) are telling us to make changes. They aren’t saying we need to halt all progress. They are saying if we don’t make changes we will be facing a disaster, the likes of which we’ve never experienced.
You should read some of the studies. Because, just like the economic impact is not so simple as a little dip in the stock market, the environmental impact is not so simple as the end times. Irreparable damage is not the same as the end of times.
Of course the climate is changing but not because of human activity. A warming climate will be much better for life on Earth compared to an ice age. Destroying the global economy because a brainwashed, high school drop out said so is ridiculous. There have been too many incidents of fudged models, manipulated data and "scientific" cover ups for us to take man-made climate change as settled science. Science is never settled!
Totally agree. We should not listen to brainwashed high school dropouts. But hey, we should probably listen to scientists that have dedicated the last 40 years of their lives to this study. And while science is never settled, there are obvious trends.
Everyone likes to talk about how we can’t disrupt the economy and agriculture (see above), but maybe y’all aren’t living in an agricultural area to see how dramatically climate change is absolutely impacting the local economy and agriculture. It is absolutely man made and you can talk to old farmers that have been farming the land for decades and they are not liberal hippies but they realize that climate change is real because it effects the crops that they grow year after after.
The data is trending. Against popular sentiment.
The polar bears are fine.
The Amazon is fine.
Things are holding steady or improving across the board, in spite of Europe and Asia's best efforts to smoke us all out.
And carbon emissions don't correlate to climate change.
So, just wondering, what’s you background? What industry/science/agriculture do you work in/study/have involvement with?
No one here said anything about polar bears nor the amazon (except you). I did mention measurable changes to growing patterns/seasons/yields, that people who make their living in agriculture report. People who, in this red state, are by no means even tolerant of hippies and liberals. So, what’s your point? Just because some folks are extreme, anyone who says the bridge isn’t invincible is over-reacting?
first, it is way more comlex than that. second, if it was that simple, you don't care because you probobly have almost no stocks. My grandparents and parents rely on the success of their stocks for their retirement
I think the bit about the stock market taking a little dip is purposefully downplaying the weight of the changes. Yeah, it’s a lot more complicated than a little dip. But also, none of it will matter if the planet’s ecosystems collapse, or we all starve to death or all die of rampant disease.
Again, it’s not a zero sum game. Just because we take climate change seriously doesn’t mean we all have to become vegan hippies. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.
Not taxing cow farts, on the other hand, will not destroy the world or hurt everyone.
You wanna save the environment? Target India, the EU, and China. And then tell every developing nation in the world that they get to starve and die of sickness, and live in squalor, because the polar bears will be dead before 2015.
In other words, if you drive the car off the cliff, it won’t matter if the tire is flat or not. So, let’s go ahead and maintain the bridge because if it goes out, the quality of our tires won’t matter.
Everyone likes to talk about how we can’t disrupt the economy and agriculture (see above), but maybe y’all aren’t living in an agricultural area to see how dramatically climate change is absolutely impacting the local economy and agriculture. It is absolutely man made and you can talk to old farmers that have been farming the land for decades and they are not liberal hippies but they realize that climate change is real because it effects the crops that they grow year after after.
The polar bears are fine.
The Amazon is fine.
Things are holding steady or improving across the board, in spite of Europe and Asia's best efforts to smoke us all out.
And carbon emissions don't correlate to climate change.
No one here said anything about polar bears nor the amazon (except you). I did mention measurable changes to growing patterns/seasons/yields, that people who make their living in agriculture report. People who, in this red state, are by no means even tolerant of hippies and liberals. So, what’s your point? Just because some folks are extreme, anyone who says the bridge isn’t invincible is over-reacting?