Could this global pandemic be a sign that the US needs some kind of social safety net so when circumstances prevent people from working for a while their lives aren't instantly ruined, like an actual first world country ?
No, it must be the people that are over-reacting to a flu, pure capitalims cannot possibly be wrong.
Ffs how do you always manage to be so godamng wrong ?
Money's gotta come from somewhere. Should we actually go to work and reserve critical resources for the 0.03 percent of infected that may die? Nah, let's destroy the global economy, arrest people for taking a motorboat out fishing instead of a kayak, and arrest a man for violating the 6ft rule WITH HIS FUCKING WIFE.
The death rate is not 0.03 but over 3 per cent, and in Spain it's over 10 per cent. The Spanish economy is about to become ruined by being on total lockdown for 7 weeks, but we're all trying to best to ensure that no one dies and that the number of cases doesn't increase by 10 thousand new people every day. Money's gotta come from somewhere? That's why we're asking the EU to provide reconstruction funds. We know how screwed this has been, but it has been the only way to protect more our elderly people, and it has prevented a greater collapse of our health system.
Not to be contrarian, but the economy crashing is a pretty terrible thing even if it halts the spread and infection of coronavirus 100%. If farm production/harvesting halts, there goes the majority of the food people need to survive. Which is what's happening in the US. And if the food goes, all the money to rebuild is meaningless if you can't buy a meal to feed yourself, much less a neighborhood, a town, a city, a state, a country. Humanity doesn't walk the world on it's feet, it crawls around on it's belly. The economy doesn't need to be re opened so people can get hair cuts or grab a coffee with their friends or shoot the shit in a bar. It needs to open the way for food and necessities to be produced so half the country doesn't starve to death forgetting that they do indeed need to eat.
Farm production has been continuing even after the state of emergency was declared, so food is still being grown. The problem is that there are not enough laborers that want to pick fruit, since in Europe most of them come from the East and they don't want to risk moving just to pick fruit under these conditions. Idk if the US has stopped farmers from working, but at least they haven't done so in Europe (my uncle is a farmer and he's been working).
The mortality rate in the US is well under 1 percent. Considering that it's also 60x more infectious than thought, and that the deaths are inflated by improper counting, and it really is just a really bad flu strain.
It's around 5% when I checked it 2 hours ago, and the idea of the confinement is to prevent more deaths. Apart from the recorded ones, the death rate of all countries has skyrocketed as many cases go unreported. This "flu strain" as you call it lasts much longer than the actual flu, it has long-term consequences to your health after you are cured, and there's no evidence that once you catch it that you are forever cured from it.
I'm not against voluntary isolation. But I'm certain that it can be rolled back to just the young, the elderly, and the sickly.
And the numbers are pumped up. Cali is counting traffic fatalities as Corona deaths, NYC is counting corona deaths without even testing the bodies, and for some reason other conditions like chemo and pneumonia are being counted as Covid deaths rather than, you know, cancer and pneumonia deaths.
That ain't how you track mortality rates.
Then you need to consider that Corona didn't just pop up in February, it's been kicking since at least late last year.
It will never go away, flu viruses mutate too fast for that. It will pop up again and again just like every other coronavirus.
Even though the other examples aren't corona deaths, untreated corona does cause pneumonia because it affects a patient's lungs. No government has been counting deaths properly, that's for sure. And corona popped up on February worldwide, but governments got chill and only acted when it was too late so they had to enforce severe restrictions to prevent further expansion. The best solution would have been to have a shorter lockdown and then do massive tests to ensure that work could begin, but the second best option is this to prevent the further spread of the virus and to ensure that everyone can stay healthy. Even if the short term outcomes are shitty, which they will be, it can prevent more long-term issues relating to not acting against this virus
The short term outcome is destroying the long term. We're looking at famines of biblical proportions, mass unemployment, the loss of civil and constitutional rights, domestic and international unrest, and hundreds of millions of lives being destroyed.
To what end?
Taiwan knew what was up as far back as December. The UN told them to shove off. President Trump wanted to tighten the border, the House called him racist.
The private sector has been working continuously on testing kits and treatments, and only when the Exectutive tells the FDA to lose the pay to play scheme are we seeing any.
The FDA's only test for the longest time was scraping the surface of somebody's brain. It had a 30 percent false pos/neg rate and took weeks to process. The WHO testing kits and many euro equivalents had similar waits and fail rates.
South Korea only managed to control the spread by DOXING THEIR ENTIRE POPULATION.
For a virus that kills less than one percent of infected, including the false numbers.
Your idea that the short run is destroying the long run could happen, but the famine will probably only go against poor people in developing states as it always goes, 'the loss of rights' is only going to be temporary as the lockdown will be taken down at some point, 'unrest' that I'm not sure about what you mean, and millions of people that could benefit of having government backing since it's the one that announced that a lockdown had to happen.
Of course the best solution is to go back in time and warn ourselves that this is how shit was going to go down, but we can't. What we can do is to prevent more people from becoming ill, which means that either testing that may not work (as it has shown) or to close our countries for the time being.
And no, as I said before, the virus letality isn't 1%. Because this point has been brought up again, here are sources that say it kills more people than you want to believe:
36,000 Missing Deaths: Tracking the True Toll of the Coronavirus Crisis
It's true that one doctor from Stanford does claim the rate to be at around 0.2%, but given that he's the only source that claims so; it doesn't seem to be widely accepted and greater rates are what the WHO and many national governments are claiming
I'm not pulling from other's numbers. It's math extrapolated from the new data showing that 60 times the people are infected, but 60 times the people aren't dying.
And the shortages aren't just going to effect Africans and Asians, not that it would be any less terrible, but everyone.
The short run is already destroying the long run.
Civil liberties once lost can never be reclaimed without blood and fire. History shows that very consistently. By your own admission, this is being used as an opportunity to force more people on the government teat, nevermind the attacks on freedom of assembly, religion, privacy, or even self determination.
Meanwhile NK is looking at a regime change, China is moving on Africa and the Pacific, Iran is finding naval trade routes, and every problem that existed before is still kicking. We're wasting time and resources to save a very negligible number of lives at great cost to billions more.
No, it must be the people that are over-reacting to a flu, pure capitalims cannot possibly be wrong.
Ffs how do you always manage to be so godamng wrong ?
And the numbers are pumped up. Cali is counting traffic fatalities as Corona deaths, NYC is counting corona deaths without even testing the bodies, and for some reason other conditions like chemo and pneumonia are being counted as Covid deaths rather than, you know, cancer and pneumonia deaths.
That ain't how you track mortality rates.
Then you need to consider that Corona didn't just pop up in February, it's been kicking since at least late last year.
It will never go away, flu viruses mutate too fast for that. It will pop up again and again just like every other coronavirus.
To what end?
Taiwan knew what was up as far back as December. The UN told them to shove off. President Trump wanted to tighten the border, the House called him racist.
The private sector has been working continuously on testing kits and treatments, and only when the Exectutive tells the FDA to lose the pay to play scheme are we seeing any.
The FDA's only test for the longest time was scraping the surface of somebody's brain. It had a 30 percent false pos/neg rate and took weeks to process. The WHO testing kits and many euro equivalents had similar waits and fail rates.
South Korea only managed to control the spread by DOXING THEIR ENTIRE POPULATION.
For a virus that kills less than one percent of infected, including the false numbers.
Of course the best solution is to go back in time and warn ourselves that this is how shit was going to go down, but we can't. What we can do is to prevent more people from becoming ill, which means that either testing that may not work (as it has shown) or to close our countries for the time being.
And no, as I said before, the virus letality isn't 1%. Because this point has been brought up again, here are sources that say it kills more people than you want to believe:
36,000 Missing Deaths: Tracking the True Toll of the Coronavirus Crisis
And the shortages aren't just going to effect Africans and Asians, not that it would be any less terrible, but everyone.
The short run is already destroying the long run.
Civil liberties once lost can never be reclaimed without blood and fire. History shows that very consistently. By your own admission, this is being used as an opportunity to force more people on the government teat, nevermind the attacks on freedom of assembly, religion, privacy, or even self determination.
Meanwhile NK is looking at a regime change, China is moving on Africa and the Pacific, Iran is finding naval trade routes, and every problem that existed before is still kicking. We're wasting time and resources to save a very negligible number of lives at great cost to billions more.