Unless you'd prefer close air support, M240B machine guns laying down fire to cover the mortars, fragmentation grenades, "dead checks", and other things allowed by international laws (many of which the United States are not actually signatories of), maybe you shouldn't hold law enforcement to military laws, American or otherwise.
I don't arrest people for traffic violations, the boys in blue don't call in A-10s. Let's keep it that way.
Yes you're wrong but that's not surprising.
That the police be held to stricter rules than the military is COMMON SENSE, one is dealing with war and enemies, the other is supposed to be dealing with fucking civilians.
So if the police is doing stuff to your own fucking citizens that the military would literally not be allowed to do with people you're at war with, and your argument is "our citizens do not get the same protections as people we're at war with get.", then maybe you should question whether it's ok for the police to do that ?
No one said the police should be able to behave as military. They said they shouldn't be allowed use tactics that even the military aren't allowed to use. You can't just 'flip it around' because it's not symmetrical. The police are EXPECTED to have stricter limitations on account of you're not supposed to be at war with your own citizens.
Tear gas and pepper spray are illegal to soldiers. Batons are borderline but best not used on the enemy.
For fuck's sake, we do things to kids going through basic training that would be highly illegal to do to the enemy.
You're comparing apples to widescreen TVs.
And when innocent lives are threatened, as is the case in the vast overwhelming majority of police killings, I certainly fucking hope the officers are doing whatever it takes to neutralize the threat.
Ah yes. The police killings that were deemed justified by the police. You shouldn't treat kids going through basic training like shit either btw. That's not an argument to allow the treatment of civilians, that's you making my point, and as always, still missing the point by half a mile, but I'll add that at least they are here of their own free will.
If you don't think the police are abusing their power in the US, and racially targeting black people despite the overwhelming statistics showing that, idk, I guess I'm not surprised. And the issue isn't that no killing is ever justified, is that even when it's fucking not justified, the officer will get a nice paid vacation, shuffled around to another station and go on abusing his power again with no accountability.
Fuck outta here with your 'police is justified in the killings'. They aren't protecting innocent lives, people in other countries aren't magically less in danger, and somehow LEO don't kill people there.
It's clear now that you are beyond rationality and have no knowledge of the military, law enforcement, international law, or US crime. Nor do you seem to have any desire to learn. Good day to you, try and stay out of trouble.
Not gonna lie, you calling me irrational is the best proof of my rationality I could ever ask for. But I'm sure you're right, and the protest rocking the country right now are just do nothing lazy people who should keep quiet and obey LEO. Keep at it buddy, common sense is expensive.
I laid out my rationale, experiences, and knowledge on the subjects in question.
You offered no valid refutation, a clear lack of understanding of the subjects, and attempt to create a strawman, poorly at that.
Yeah, well, when "protestors" are attempting to destroy federal property and actively harm federal officers you kinda lose the shield of morality trying to use it like a cudgel.
I don't arrest people for traffic violations, the boys in blue don't call in A-10s. Let's keep it that way.
That the police be held to stricter rules than the military is COMMON SENSE, one is dealing with war and enemies, the other is supposed to be dealing with fucking civilians.
So if the police is doing stuff to your own fucking citizens that the military would literally not be allowed to do with people you're at war with, and your argument is "our citizens do not get the same protections as people we're at war with get.", then maybe you should question whether it's ok for the police to do that ?
No one said the police should be able to behave as military. They said they shouldn't be allowed use tactics that even the military aren't allowed to use. You can't just 'flip it around' because it's not symmetrical. The police are EXPECTED to have stricter limitations on account of you're not supposed to be at war with your own citizens.
For fuck's sake, we do things to kids going through basic training that would be highly illegal to do to the enemy.
You're comparing apples to widescreen TVs.
If you don't think the police are abusing their power in the US, and racially targeting black people despite the overwhelming statistics showing that, idk, I guess I'm not surprised. And the issue isn't that no killing is ever justified, is that even when it's fucking not justified, the officer will get a nice paid vacation, shuffled around to another station and go on abusing his power again with no accountability.
Fuck outta here with your 'police is justified in the killings'. They aren't protecting innocent lives, people in other countries aren't magically less in danger, and somehow LEO don't kill people there.
You offered no valid refutation, a clear lack of understanding of the subjects, and attempt to create a strawman, poorly at that.