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· 4 years ago
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That's the Road Warrior. Technically the same series but not the same movie. Hi, I'm Grim and I'll be your state-assigned fun ruiner for this evening.
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· 4 years ago
It’s an important distinction. Chronologically Mad Max shows the early stages of the fall of humanity whereas Mad Max 2 (The Road Warrior) shows a society that has gone through the final collapse. Beyond Thunderdome shows a society reestablishing itself. We can see written dates in Mad Max that would place it in the 1980’s. Road warrior is said to be set about 3 years after, and Beyond Thunder Dome about 15 years after that. Obviously Fury Road is the most difficult of the films to reconcile in continuity. Even George Miller doesn’t really know how it all fits together (or at least is very good at pretending he doesn’t...)
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· 4 years ago
The retconned timeline for the series places Fury Road around 2050, and we see Max with a tattoo stating it has been a little over 30 years since “the fall.” Max would have been about 40 in Thunderdome, but Hardy is too young to have been born in the 1960’s to be in his 20’s or so for the Mad Max film.
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· 4 years ago
One can argue that the tattoo is wrong, or the dates we see in Mad Max are wrong or left overs. However given the fact that the vehicles, technology, etc are mostly all vintage such as muscle cars and such from the 1970’s, that does throw a bit of doubt there as such things are scarce in modern times.
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· 4 years ago
We know that after the global oil crisis and war, nuclear weapons were used- Thunderdome makes it clear a nuclear event has occurred. So one could argue that event happened before Mad Max (although no one mentions or alludes to nukes being used, or seems concerned about radiation etc- and its accepted that the nuclear event happened sometime during or after the second film.) So wen if we say that pre computer controlled cars were being used because of EMP or some such nonsense- that doesn’t explain why that was the case in Mad Max when society had not yet completely fallen.
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· 4 years ago
At that point, oil and fuel being scarce, and modern vehicles not yet having been degraded to a point requiring repairs or being non operative- of would make more sense that you’d see modern vehicles that were more fuel efficient and used less oil, and that after some years or decades of neglect and abuse that only simpler, older machines would be left running.
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· 4 years ago
Obviously being made in the 1970’s on a small budget there couldn’t actually be a 2020 Prius or even their idea of what cars would be driven in the future. They used what they had and could afford. But- as that meta relates to shape the continuity, we are given a clear picture that the first film was set in what is now the past. Only the retcon timeline would place the first film in the 2000’s, and even at that- it doesn’t fit as Fury Road itself was changed to reflect the current perceived crises of today just as Mad Max and Road Warrior reflected the oil problems of the 70’s.
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scatmandingo
· 4 years ago
The first movie wasn’t meant to look dystopian, it just kind of happened that way because they didn’t have any permits. So they had to use abandoned building and hide away from populated areas. I do theorize the unintended feel of the movie is what prompted Road Warrior to be actually set in that kind of world. Continuity went out the window for me when the Gyro Captain was in RW and BT as the same character but Max doesn’t know him in the second.
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· 4 years ago
I was very confused by that when the movie originally came out. Years of theory and debate have gone in to the gyro captain in BTD- it’s the same actor, very similar costume, he has a gyro copter, and he’s got a kid which would fit the ending of MM2. Some say it’s meta- the character and concept were liked and or the actor was liked and they just wanted to include him wether it made sense or not...
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· 4 years ago
Some say it’s a coincidence there’s another gyro captain and it’s the same actor but a different character. Some say the captain left the gyro when it got shot down and he went with the caravan- so someone else found it. Some even say that Max and the captain could have not recognized each other after spending a few days together 15 years prior, and both looking very different and assuming the other was dead or far away never to be seen again.
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guest_
· 4 years ago
But yeah- continuity isn’t super strong in the franchise. Even Miller doesn’t too much care. One popular theory is that the Mad Max films are told FROM legends about Max- which is why dated and places and details and such skip around and continuity is fragmented- each movie is a legend or story told by one entity or group that’s encountered Max, memories aren’t perfect, details filled in and assumptions made on things the teller didn’t know, and over time changed in the telling until the legend is all that remains of the man.
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· 4 years ago
As for the aesthetic- yeah. Lots about the films were kinda “accidental” which is something we see a lot in older films before budgets were so huge and studios used experts and metrics and formulas to craft and review things to create commercially viable product instead of relying on mostly chance and cast/crew to produce movies that made money.
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