With the irony being that now as a whole France is very protective of trying to avoid things that would change the language or culture, with the government going so far as discontinuing use of foreign words in official communications and sending out requests for citizens not to use those words and things like that. Lol.
More like the other way 'round. Until the Norman conquest of 1066, "English" was more like Old Germanic. What we think of as Ye Olde English was Frenchified Really Olde English.
Because the aristocracy of later England was the conquering Normans (i.e., French), we see the old Germanic names for the animals (Kuh = cow, Schwein = pig) and the French name for the meat that comes from the animal (boeuf, porc).
@snowbeast- lol. You light up my life.
@hunk_o_junk- oh man. Yeah. I didn’t even get into historical context in my thinking- I was just thinking in terms of the meme and modern French.
“English” in the modern sense and language in general- specific to this discussion- Primarily Western European Languages- are a twisty road of history with some bling curves. But all issues of politics and such asides- it’s undeniable “modern English” can be said beyond “heavily influenced” to even “owes its existence to” French. Of course the history of France and the French language has some twists too- the concept of languages as associated with nations or geographic groups can be viewed differently based on when in history we look look at things. It can technically without much stretch be said that “English” existed BEFORE England existed- so languages have historically been linked to geographic regions or the migrations of speakers across regions and intermingling etc- but defining the regions..
besides using some sort of exact coordinate system can price tricky as who has been considered by what name or the names of places or what areas and peoples were considered as part of such- well… a windy road indeed. But I would agree with you point as valid.
Because the aristocracy of later England was the conquering Normans (i.e., French), we see the old Germanic names for the animals (Kuh = cow, Schwein = pig) and the French name for the meat that comes from the animal (boeuf, porc).
@hunk_o_junk- oh man. Yeah. I didn’t even get into historical context in my thinking- I was just thinking in terms of the meme and modern French.
“English” in the modern sense and language in general- specific to this discussion- Primarily Western European Languages- are a twisty road of history with some bling curves. But all issues of politics and such asides- it’s undeniable “modern English” can be said beyond “heavily influenced” to even “owes its existence to” French. Of course the history of France and the French language has some twists too- the concept of languages as associated with nations or geographic groups can be viewed differently based on when in history we look look at things. It can technically without much stretch be said that “English” existed BEFORE England existed- so languages have historically been linked to geographic regions or the migrations of speakers across regions and intermingling etc- but defining the regions..