Regardless of your gender or size or how you look, consent should always be at the foundation of sexual matters and that begins at the initial “approach” and even extends to opening a conversion or interaction. You have to “read the room” and if it may be appropriate to even speak to a person, you still should proceed at the minimum intensity and wait for their response so that they can consent or decline to continue the interaction. We should always be considerate and take steps not to make a person feel “trapped” or “threatened” into an interaction. Self awareness and awareness of others.
That said- there is nothing disgusting or disturbing about muscular women. Not every man will appreciate their sculpted form or the effort they put into their physical abilities and form- but not every woman likes men that are muscular either do they? Like most things there are a subset of men who fetishize muscular women and often in doing so objectify them.
It’s sad that men and women both so often think like this meme- especially towards women.
The idea of “having to date” or “being hit on by” or “turning into” a “buff girl” or a “fat girl” or any body type that diverges too far from a narrow standard of beauty or “acceptable femininity” is some sort of horrid punishment. The idea that we can make jokes where the punchline is a human being based on how they look… it’s so exceptionally childish, shallow, and cruel. Like many who objectify and fetishize human beings, that’s robbing a person of their humanity and reducing them to the status of a piece of furniture that has no feelings and should simply exist to satisfy your personal aesthetic.
She’s a beautiful young lady who obviously puts time and effort into her muscles for strength or beauty or whatever reasons she sees through the discipline and dedication to do so. You don’t have to date or want to date a person but maybe try to respect people even if you don’t want to have sex?
Tbh I think it's about being "dominated" by a woman (the muscles are just to show how 'masculine' she is) which is interestingly purporting the stereotype of men as rapists.
I sort of agree? many men do not consider a woman’s position. I’ve had a man who who towered over me and looked like he had 100lbs on me hit on me, impose physically in my space, block my exit, and then touch me in an unambiguous manner without permission or consent. I was fairly young- just out of high school or so. I realized at that moment that while I’m not the biggest guy I am also not the smallest. I tower over most women and on average have 50-100lbs on them- and the way I felt in that situation, I had to reason that might be how a woman might feel when someone they are not interested in comes up, even in a friendly manner, and they are potentially trapped or psychologically feel penned in, by someone larger and probably stronger, and then perhaps find what started as a friendly if slightly intimidating encounter to turn into a sexual one- perhaps even a slightly aggressive sexual one.
I don’t believe all men or most men or even a large percentage of men are inherently “rapists” or “predators.” I do believe that often times men just do not have the experiences or have not put serious consideration into the way their interactions with women might look or feel from the woman’s perspective. The entire crux of the trans athlete debates hinges on what is a fundamental biological average- that even when we are talking about women who are athletic and trained as such- men often posses physical advantage. I sadly do not know off the top of my head of any woman I am close to who does not have a story of a man reacting poorly to rejection, of being overly aggressive, etc. so while not every man is that way, not every man will yell or insult or attack or persist etc. when rejected- it would be a bit naive of a woman concerned for her safety to not consider that THIS man she does not know may not react in the most amicable of ways to rejection.
So I do agree that I think the point here was to highlight that- to say: “hey- what if women were on average the larger, more physically imposing and physically strong gender, and they approached you aggressively and perhaps doggedly?” But I think the picture kisses the mark and is a better example to fetishization/objectification or such. The picture has little sense of scale and best guess this woman looks to be around average build save for her muscular development in the legs. I’d guess no more than 160lbs or so assuming “average height.” Neither of which things are terribly intimidating to the average man.
But wether it was the intent or not to be negative, when one uses a picture of someone to illustrate the point of intimidation on the premise that of every other person looked like that you might be scared or off put- the implication is that this person or type of person is off putting.
So if most people do not have that degree of muscular development right? The audience is assumed to be made up of people who are different than that person right? Ok. Now imagine if we were posting a meme to an audience where most people in it weren’t black, and we posted a picture of a black man captioned “imagine if every <blank> looked like this…” and the entire point was to highlight intimidation. There would be the implication that man was inherently intimidating.
But I mean- regardless of color- a 5’10” sting beam man in a sweater vest is generally not very inherently intimidating and a hulking dude who looks like a movie villain perhaps is. So here we have a picture of a woman whom if we changed her to a man- we can’t tell height because of scale but this woman looks to be a little over 5 feet tall if we assume those stairs are to US code or close to. So we get some idea of her build. So picture a 5’6” man who weight maybe 160lbs and has very developed legs, average to narrow shoulders, you can see some core development through their baggy shirt- the posture and fit shows they do some chest work and some arm work, but there arms are about average give or take and there traps aren’t very developed… so a dude with strong legs and an ok upper body of this build…. And I don’t think that’s going to intimidate most people.
So when we start to take similar or allegorical criteria to what this picture sets and use different stand ins than muscular women- it would generally get obviously offensive pretty quickly.
So the picture really doesn’t match the intent IMHO. It is a hard concept to get across either way. It’s a fundamental thing so you don’t really need to explain to someone how being physically larger might be imposing- but one generally can’t understand such things until they’ve lived them.
Like- it’s obvious that having a baby isn’t generally fun- but someone who hasn’t given birth can only grasp it on the level of “probably hurts… duh…” having a stroke sucks but unless you’ve had a stroke you can’t really grasp it.
That’s one thing that does suck about these basic concepts like this- they can be explained in a few words that most can understand on a shallow level but they generally require relatable experience to really grasp or take to heart.
That said- there is nothing disgusting or disturbing about muscular women. Not every man will appreciate their sculpted form or the effort they put into their physical abilities and form- but not every woman likes men that are muscular either do they? Like most things there are a subset of men who fetishize muscular women and often in doing so objectify them.
The idea of “having to date” or “being hit on by” or “turning into” a “buff girl” or a “fat girl” or any body type that diverges too far from a narrow standard of beauty or “acceptable femininity” is some sort of horrid punishment. The idea that we can make jokes where the punchline is a human being based on how they look… it’s so exceptionally childish, shallow, and cruel. Like many who objectify and fetishize human beings, that’s robbing a person of their humanity and reducing them to the status of a piece of furniture that has no feelings and should simply exist to satisfy your personal aesthetic.
She’s a beautiful young lady who obviously puts time and effort into her muscles for strength or beauty or whatever reasons she sees through the discipline and dedication to do so. You don’t have to date or want to date a person but maybe try to respect people even if you don’t want to have sex?
So if most people do not have that degree of muscular development right? The audience is assumed to be made up of people who are different than that person right? Ok. Now imagine if we were posting a meme to an audience where most people in it weren’t black, and we posted a picture of a black man captioned “imagine if every <blank> looked like this…” and the entire point was to highlight intimidation. There would be the implication that man was inherently intimidating.
So the picture really doesn’t match the intent IMHO. It is a hard concept to get across either way. It’s a fundamental thing so you don’t really need to explain to someone how being physically larger might be imposing- but one generally can’t understand such things until they’ve lived them.
Like- it’s obvious that having a baby isn’t generally fun- but someone who hasn’t given birth can only grasp it on the level of “probably hurts… duh…” having a stroke sucks but unless you’ve had a stroke you can’t really grasp it.