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· 1 year ago
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lol. I suppose it depends. Most of the time films and shows don’t portray life accurately. Daily life tends to make poor stories when portrayed accurately. The pacing is off, plot threads get dropped and characters are inconsistent. Often times nothing of narrative interest occurs at all and it’s full of McMuffins. But even a good writer and an interesting life on the best day- that’s 24 hours. You have to condense things and cut things and set the context and background. The history that makes things make sense or have weight. To get a viewer to sort of have some feeling of experiencing things you may need to draw some things out to bring boredom or a mental weariness for example- the audience can’t understand the suffering of a character in screen always- simply showing a quick clip or montage of suffering doesn’t drive it to the viewer the way drawn out well done sequences can.
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guest_
· 1 year ago
So a film like “Fast and The furious” isn’t going to be accurate to most car enthusiasts, Top Gun won’t capture the experience of being a real fighter pilot etc. these films are meant to capture some elements of truth but also a sort of condensed “spirit” of that world but distilled and concentrated for mass consumption. High school fiction tends to be the same- exaggerated, blown up. A bit of hyperbole. In high school a fight over the silliest thing can schism friends maybe for good or maybe for a few weeks or months- but that can feel like much longer. It all can feel much bigger because life hasn’t been as long and the world is smaller and hormones make things more intense. So high school fiction tends to exaggerate it all. Dances and parties are bigger, loves are deeper and more passionate, stakes are higher and conflicts are deeper than they usually are. As teenagers little bumps are often “the end of the world,” puppy love can be “meant to last forever” and…
guest_
· 1 year ago
.. staying over the night might be some huge deal. To make the stakes narratively interesting to all ages it kinda has to be blown up. I mean- as a child I HATED kids in TV and film. They were usually so dumb and whiny and useless. They didn’t do the cool stuff- they might help or run or this or that but that was it. They often caused problems- didn’t do what needed to because they were scared or gave away the secret or screwed things up. But… I was a kid. I’d probably be as bad or worse in those situations. As an adult I know and can admit that. As a kid I thought I would be right there with the adult characters fighting and doing the cool stuff. I wouldn’t be scared or so useless! But I would probably.
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guest_
· 1 year ago
So no disrespect to teens- teens deal with some heavy stuff sometimes- life or death even. I dealt with some of that as a teen- but most of it- it was dumb. As a teen I thought it was so important- so and so wants to throw down or this thing I want is this big deal or the pain of this romance or rejection would destroy me, this relationship meant everything blah blah. And almost always it wasn’t as intense or serious as my inexperienced and hormonally unbalanced brain thought. Few crises were what they were in my head. This is often the case. To capture the feelings of intensity and grandiosity or impact or being young. It can also be the case that as we age, and high school fiction is often made by people out of high school, people who may inject some elements of fantasy- the way they WISHED high school was or people who may have placed more weight on these memories as they’ve aged.
lucky11
· 1 year ago
Well hey, don't beat yourself up too much. Most adults would be scared or useless too. And then there's the dumb, whiny, and useless adults which are also portrayed in movies where the "kids" outsmart them, or overpower them etc.... Kid me loved that stuff. Now as an adult that works with kids? I don't care what kind of training they have a 6-10 year is not going to overpower any reasonably fit adult in a "fair" fight. And a whole school worth of children may eventually wear down a trained adult but I wouldn't be placing any bets on the kids.
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guest_
· 1 year ago
So I never understood the whole “these are the best years of your life” thing- not then and not after. I found my college and young adult years much better than high school. As I’ve aged my freedom and resources have tended to increase. I feel I’ve grown slightly wiser and more experienced over time. I’ve been able to do things and have experiences as I’ve aged that have been amazing and I couldn’t have dreamed of in high school. But…. I’ve grown to understand a bit. It isn’t that those years are free of troubles or that you aren’t sometimes bored or overwhelmed or disappointed. It’s that it becomes rarer and rarer as you age to be able to experience the world the same way or feel the same intensity and wonder. People doffer but for myself and everyone I’ve ever spoken to on the subject- you may have many relationships or loves but none are quite the same as those first or early ones.
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guest_
· 1 year ago
Even “firsts” you haven’t experienced don’t tend to feel the way “firsts” did then. The possibility of the world and even any specific moment don’t seem quite as broad. In general I’d guess that even with new things and people you have some sense of expectation- some idea of how things will likely be or the way things may go. True surprises and new experiences without some context to draw from are rarer. The world is more familiar and routine. So I mean- of course few if anyone has a high school experience like fiction, but most analogs have analogs of sorts. Most people have high school lives that if someone had secretly filmed every moment could be edited into some sort of “high school” fiction- a comedy or a romance or drama or whatnot. Even if we dismiss it and think “no- really- I didn’t have an experience ANYTHING like that..” some people really have very different experiences but usually we just sort of create a narrative of our lives and see it from that perspective.
guest_
· 1 year ago
@lucky11- lol. Thank you. I’m not too torn up over the realization that when I was 10 or so I probably wasn’t ready to operate at the level of a special forces operative or such. I agree with your assessment. And it is true that there are movies where kids beat adults- home alone and such- usually more “kids” oriented films and such than more serious or “grownup” stories. Even most of the “family” stuff the kids were whack. Original list in space- sure Will did some cool stuff and had robot- but he also was always causing trouble or getting in trouble and needing bailed out or being tricked etc. a lot of cartoons like Johnny Quest or Speed Racer, Boxey in Battle Star Galactica (TOS) and so forth. More annoying is liabilities than aspirational for a young kid.
guest_
· 1 year ago
I’d say likewise that most teens don’t particularly enjoy watching “realistic” teens in most fiction. How many teens are so fond of other teens let alone themselves? The internet and much of its humor runs on teenaged self hatred. As a teen- seeing a realistic version of myself on screen would be more likely to cause me second hand embarrassment or self consciousness than happiness. Children, adults, teens. We tend to like to see idealized versions of ourselves. The slackers and “nerds” and “dorks” in fiction tend to be somehow cooler or more successful or more attractive or luckier etc. than most real life viewers who might identify with them. Jocks are jockier and hipsters are hipper and such. Just like we tend to dislike our voice on recording we tend to not like our true image- we prefer a version that suits our idealized self image.