If you have to prove a point, yes it is. It's true. Truth hurts but if she wants to act like an adult and do an adult things, then she deserves to be treated like an adult with what is said.
But, as a pointed out in my comment, she called her daughter a "trollop" (which basically means slut/whore). I'm all for the harsh truth, but if you start enforcing discipline this hard, then the kids are just gonna rebel against you even more. You've got to have a good balance between harsh and easy (and understanding, for that matter) in order to make it work.
And stooping to low brow comments like joking about her friends being fatherless is not effective. This seems like the fastest way to cause resentment and bitterness between parents and a daughter. Even if she realises what she did was wrong, I'm sure the daughter won't feel sorry, just angry.
I think this would have been way more effective if it just said "and to think, you and your friends thought this was a bluff"
Exactly. That part really angered me because I happen to be one of those fatherless girls or bastard children or whatever you'd like to call us and this woman was being an absolute jerk about it. It's not funny and it happens to be a bit of a sore spot. I really believe this mother did a horrible job. I mean, selling the tickets was perfectly fine and even humiliating her a bit (a bit) was fine. But this took it way too far. By the end, the mother had become completely immature and I lost all the respect for her that I had.
She's not putting down fatherless kids, she's just telling her own child, very crudely, how those situations will happen. I wish more single mothers would tell their daughters that trolloping around is a good way to follow in mom's mistakes.
The way she said it was extremely rude, "And why a lot of your friends don't have an address to send that Father's Day card to!" I mean, really? That was incredibly rude and unnecessary.
And, listen hear BITCH, my mother was not trolloping around, okay? A lot of single moms don't "trollop" around. In case you haven't noticed, it takes literally one instance of sex in order to get pregnant. That's hardly trolloping around, asshole. And, honestly, I'd rather be a single mom and raise my child. Besides, a lot of women, when they become single moms, they're making the right choices because their husbands or boyfriends were abusive and would've hurt the kid just as much as they hurt them. Next time think before you make some comment that clearly was not thought all the way through.
Also, people in nice situations can be single moms. My aunt is wealthy and a single mom. It takes two to make a baby (it's just a peeve of mine people assume being a single parent means you screwed up, because that's not always the case).
Anyways - parenting: you're doing it wrong mom selling tickets.
Yes, thank you. Or women who just haven't found a partner so they get a sperm donor and become a single mom. And it's a pet peeve of mine as well. Mostly just because my mother is amazing and is an awesome parent even though she's a single mom (and she has worked her ass off for me) and I feel like a lot of nuclear families have raised their kids horribly despite having two parents. Plus there are tons of scenarios where you become a single parent: your partner dies, your partner leaves, you're raped, etc., all of which aren't the mothers fault but they start to act like it is and I'm just just fucking sick of people calling my mother a whore.
Anyways, I don't think the selling the tickets was bad. I mean, like I said, selling the tickets and perhaps embarrassing them a bit would be fine, but this was over the line and, as someone else said, very tacky. I really feel as though the mother was acting incredibly immature.
Being a "fatherless" girl isn't a bad thing because then you want a better father for your own children. I don't pity you nor do I understand why you have to bring your personal life into this. She was pointing out that her friends, who were being "trollops" were going to end up just like their mothers with no man to help support the children. One more thing, this isn't about people calling your mom a whore. She was probably pissed off dealing with her daughter's shit and wanted to get her to keep her mouth shut. No one asked about your home life and no one cares either. It's tough you have a single mother, but this isn't about that. This is about a daughter who had an entire scheme with her friends, probably all their mothers, and her. The kids went way too far and the mother had to make a point and be straight up and say you don't want to end up like your friends' moms who struggle to support them because bad decisions. She probably knew the mothers and their situations at home
I also see where you're coming from being with someone just one time, but these girls sound young and as her mother pointed out, are hanging out with an older man, who would probably have no trouble convincing one or more of them to have sex
I didn't want your pity. I wasn't expecting a bunch of apologies, that's stupid. But it's still a sore spot and I will defend myself against it. Anyways, if we're talking about the actual post, then the woman clearly said how other girls did this and it was kinda implied that it was their mothers, especially when she made the Father's Day comment. And then she called her friends trollops and, if her friends were acting like their mothers or doing similar stuff, then they're basically saying that their mother is a trollop (it's weird, but do you know what I mean?).
Anyways, all parents are tired of their kids shit but I still don't believe this is the way to fix it, no matter how aggravating they may be.
Also, I know no one asked about my home life, but I said it anyways. No one asked you to make this comment, and yet you did. Why the rudeness, too? I know I was rude, and that was shitty of me, but why you?
I never said it was about the single-mothers, but that doesn't mean it's
still not there. Ignoring something just because it's not a part of the big picture isn't right. And that woman, in no shape or form, said it as civilized and polite as you are making it out to be. That's why I got so pissed off, because she was being a jerk about it. If she had actually said, "I don't want you to end up like your friends' mothers who struggle to support them," then I wouldn't have really cared because she was being nice about it. But making some derogatory remark about how they can't send Father's Day cards because they don't know where their dad lives is incredibly rude.
The sex with the old men was definitely wrong, though. But I didn't say it wasn't. I said that I definitely agreed with her selling the tickets and embarrassing the girl a bit, but the mother became extremely rude and immature and I didn't like that.
And when. I said the one time thing, I mean that everyone who has ever had a one-night-stand (excluding homosexuals) could've gotten pregnant, but t
I agree that I was rude, I am sorry about that, but I honestly thing you're making a big deal out of something the kid probably got over in a week. She has an opinion, and I know that as a mother, no one wants their child to associate with people who are promiscuous. So she pointed it out. If you want to hang out with sluts, then you can be a slut to, but here is your consequence for doing so. Maybe her mom is just a bitch and is always like that, but, as I said, sometimes you have to be harsh because kids think you're kidding or that you're not going to follow through. Once she finally followed through I'm sure she was pissed as hell. She's a bitch, probably how she is, and let's leave it at that. None of us, including myself, should judge people's parenting when we don't know the whole picture, and I'm sorry if I offended you :(
Well, I completely understand that. But you really can't change who your children are friends with, you know? If you forbid them to see them, then they'll just hang out with their friend anyways. That's the big problem with being a parent. You can't control them because most kids are going to do whatever they want, you just kinda have to guide them and hope for the best. They need to grow and mature and make wise decisions on their own, you know? Of course, if they start getting out of hand, then you whip them into shape real quick. But with other kids you have to be harder and use more force. Maybe that's what this mom had to do. You're right, I was judging without the whole picture (haha, I'm such a hypocrite) and I'm sorry. And it's no problem. You didn't offend me, you just kinda surprised me. If anything, I was expecting the guest that I called a bitch (sorry guest, I have a bad temper but that's no excuse) to go off on me, but instead it was you. I was just a bit confused.
Don't worry about it. Gosh we are all so dumb aren't we? I'm seventeen defending a thirty something year old's parenting skills :) But it's ok I didn't mean to go off on you. I'm bitchy as hell from eight hours of work then going to school for seven hours in one day. HA So "fun" but yea sorry again. And yea my kids better be good or I might have to call their friend's parents trollops... lol I'm so awful
You're not awful. Let's call it temporary insanity. Although I don't have work, school makes me stressed as well, so I can relate somewhat. I think that's where the majority if my dumbass comments came from, just me losing rationality after dealing with everyone at school. And, yeah, my kids better be good. My mom never really had to deal with these things because I'm a pretty good kid, which is probably why I'm against the more severe forms of punishment.
I guess that's the difference. My mother would probably beat my ass if I did something like this, though. But, for some reason, I find physical punishments (as long as they're not serious) not as bad.
Same here. I dunno, I guess long-term punishment versus, at the most, a week's worth of pain doesn't seem as bad since it's shorter. Although, I rarely leave the house anyways, so it would be worthless to ground me.
I suppose I wouldn't mind that as much. I mean, I love my books more than anything, but I like television too. It just depends on what shows she makes you watch. Is it something like "Real Housewives of Jersey Shore" or something like that?
I don't really mind Dancing With the Stars as long as I focus on the actual dancing (they've got some moves). But all the unnecessary drama is annoying.
The only drama I like is in television shows, and there's usually gotta be some other plot rather than just the drama to keep me entertained . . . with the exception of Desperate Housewives (the soap opera, not the reality TV show). It's my guilty pleasure.
YES! Those are always my favorite. Though, if I read/watch them too much, then I get paranoid and I start freaking myself out so I can't read/watch them a lot. But I still love them.
I thought someone was breaking into my house so I grabbed hairspray and a bottle of gel and was about to spray my hairspray in his eyes then whack him with the gel bottle, aiming for the temple, then jump on him and just beat the living shit out of him.
Yep, that sounds like me. XD Or once, I woke up to go to the bathroom and I thought a heard someone, so I grabbed the giant police flashlight that I keep next to my bed and I snuck really quietly through the house and it just turned out to be my cat.
One time my mom set off our alarm because someone was in our backyard and took off upstairs (I was the only one living downstairs) so I get up, half naked mind you, then go around the house with a freaking bat and was about to go hulk smash. No one was there, I even went out back. So then my mom goes "you were half naked! EASY TARGET!" and I was like FML
I always think that in the shower! It seems like you'd be so much each to take down if you're naked. Not to mention the water's always super loud so you can't hear anyone and it's foggy in the bathroom if you have the water hot and the curtain's pulled, so you wouldn't be able to see them. That's why I don't shower if my mother is sleeping or out. She has to be awake and in the house.
Okay, while I agree that the girls definitely shouldn't have done that and they really do deserve to get their concert tickets sold, a lot of that was completely uncalled for. I mean, calling your daughter a "trollop"? That's too much.
Your mother should never call you a whore. I definitely believe she should've made her daughter face the consequences and realize that what she was doing was wrong, but I don't think should've called her a "trollop" A.K.A. a whore.
Your name is whocares but you do. Too far? Sure, but maybe her child is already so out of control that she had to pull in the reigns. You don't know the situation, everyone's parenting style is different, and you probably don't realize that this girl could be doing this all the time and her mom is just sick of it. Quit ranting when no one really cares about what you're saying and when you don't know what you're talking about. If some parents don't do this kids just get worse because they think they're free to do whatever the fuck they want. Out of anger you say things that you shouldn't say. You don't know if her mom apologized for what she said and we don't even know what the end story was. Being a parent and having responsibility for your child means that you don't let your kids get away with stupid shit. It means if your daughter is being a whore you tell her she's being a whore and is going to ruin her life. No one else has seems to want to tell her or give her a wake up call.
If their child was that out of control, then why would she buy them concert tickets in the first place? I mean, what she did was bad, but that's still not the way to deal with problems. It's like I said, this girl is just going to rebel even harder because her mother did this. The concert tickets were fine, but writing all that? A bit too far, like I said. Anyways, you're right, everyone's experiences are different so I shouldn't judge, but if we're assuming this is the typical teenage girl behavior, them I definitely do not believe this is the way to deal with things.
Anyways, what is up with you? I'm not trying to be rude (except for a couple of times where I lost my temper). I'm sorry if I offended you in any way.
Okay, here's how I look at parenting: you're to support your child, guide your child, and discipline if necessary. Obviously her mom was doing the right thing by selling the tickets. She was doing the right thing embarrassing her on the Internet. But this woman
became completely rude and immature and called her daughter a whore. Really? She's resorting to name-calling now? That's ridiculous and not the way to deal with your children.
What I meant when I said she should tell her daughter she's a whore, I should have elaborated more. Some people fail to realize their mistakes unless they are pointed out. Other people, even if their mistakes are pointed out, still don't get it. If someone doesn't get it, you sometimes do have to be harsh to get the point across. I'm sorry I was rude, and you didn't offend me, but it's just like really... none of us know the situation!!! Maybe she does stupid things, gets in trouble, then gets her trust back only to do something stupid again, or maybe her mom is a big pushover and finally just snapped. The truth it, I don't know, you don't know, he, she, me, wumbo don't know. So I say we say she went to far but in a way she possibly might have had to and that she was right to punish her child. Then about the father thing... maybe she feels bitter about a father that left her or something... Who knows!?
Good point. We do all know those types of people and I'm probably one of those types of people without realizing it.
But you're completely right. I was judging unjustly while also saying don't judge unjustly and just being a huge hypocrite in general. Sorry about that. You're totally right.
@humpdaaaaayyyy I think it's just because you can insult anyone and they don't have a face you can feel guilty about and you don't have a face so they can't give you any revenge. It's just easier to insult people without worrying about someone beating you up, but it's also easier to express your opinions without having to worry about some legit idiot trying to best you up or something. But, as a result, we all get a bit careless and just start being rude and obnoxious.
I think I do it a lot because I hold back so many of my opinions and annoyance of humanity in general that I become this big ball of stress and I just kinda release it through Internet.
@nataliechip64 Haha, I was laughing at that exact same thing. XD
This one time I was at a One Direction concert and Liam Payne threw his towel into the audience and when I caught it a 250 pound 14 year old sat on me until I let go. Honestly, this woman is doing her kid a favor.
It's true though. Being a friend and a mother are two completely different things. Yes, a mom should always try to be some what of a friend tithe or child but they are first and foremost a parent.
My mother's my best friend and that's one of the reasons we get along so well. I mean, when you're a teenager, you naturally rebel against authority figures. If your parents, who are technically authority figures, appear more as friends, you probably won't rebel as much. Personally, I think parents should stop censoring themselves so much. I mean, my mother cusses and she drinks in front of me and I actually like it when she does because she begins to feel like more of a friend and an equal and not someone whom I have to put up a censor around. It's nice.
I didn't have it in me to read more than 1/4 of the comments, but I have to say I'm saddened by the fact that so many of you are finding fault with the mom. I happen to think she handled the situation perfectly.
Maybe the problem is that you're personalizing it too much. More insight into their home life would help, of course, but that's obviously not going to happen.
Lastly, I'd hope that you all would not be afraid to be honest with your kids, and not worry about being "rude". Kids should know that they'll be bombarded with bullshit the rest of their lives, but they shouldn't have to worry about their parents being a source of it. I'd rather my kid not like me, but be able to trust me, than vice versa.
Well, being honest isn't the problem, it's just how she handled being honest. If she said it differently, then it would be perfect. But, as I said, calling your kid a trollop? That sounds like the type of insult I'd throw at a fellow classmate once they pissed me off too much, which isn't good considering I'm a child and not an adult. Besides, most kids face bullshit from their peers everyday, so it's not like they're completely oblivious. Anyways, my point is, I'd never insult my child like how some kid or bully from their school would, which is why I disliked it.
Have you SEEN some of the kids these days? This is why I said that more info would be great. Besides, "trollop" is a pulled punch if I ever saw one.
Also, just because kids receive bullshit from each other doesn't mean they understand it as bullshit. Many kids, and adults as well, can be surprisingly gullible. For proof, you need look no further than this website, and the amount of people who think that if someone posted something, it must 100% of the time be true. Some even get verbally abusive if you do so much as cast a little light on the subject at hand.
Lastly, I would HOPE that I'd never have to go as far as this mother did, but sometimes, despite our best efforts, some kids just turn out bad. There inevitably comes a day where you simply have no choice but to do something like this.
Good point. Just depends on the circumstances.
There's just too many other things going on that affect kids to ensure that yours will turn out good. I mean, there's the media and peer pressure and so much other shit going on that it's impossible to tell. People just deal with things differently.
What if I was going to give you airline tickets to go to England (or America,if you live in England),$2,000 to spend there and I'd wash your car when you got back.Then I just ducking (yes I meant ducking)took it away from you and said "i'm trying to raise you responsibly because you tried to go over an older guys house".Dislike not because of taking away their tickets,but because you have to tell us the exact detail of why and to me it was a bit over the top.Give yourself a pat on the back children because you will be awesome when you grow up I bet, you don't just be a irresponsible little maggots (yes I meant maggots)because you did that one thing wrong when you were little.let's SEE how many dislikes I can get....... this is just my opinion so dont think I'm just gonna hate you if you have a different opinion.
Soooooooooooooo BRING ON THE DISLIKES
Watcha gunna do,parent who did this?!?HHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMM???????
This isn't good parenting. A good parent would have sat her down and told her why her behaviour wasn't acceptable. Revoking a present removes the trust from the relationship and causes the child to hate the parent. This is a really crappy attitude to take with parenting and the way she's talking about her daughter is horrendous.
Revoking a present is perfectly fine. There needs to be consequences to people's actions, especially when they are younger since that is when they learn how to behave. Do something wrong, pay for it. If you never pay for it as a child, you never learn that actions have consequences later on in life, when the consequences are usually much larger than just not being able to go to a little concert. She absolutely deserved to have the tickets taken away, especially after whatever prank calls they did (threatening? Not sure what kind of prank calls they could do to get the mom to stop selling the tickets)
Now, as to how the mom reacted AFTER the "we are taking away the tickets and selling them" THIS is bad parenting. If your child does something wrong, TALK TO THEM about what they did wrong, why its wrong, what their punishment is, etc. Don't passive aggressively bitch at them in a public forum so the world can see it. Don't tell them you and all your friends were a bunch of "trollops"
When you were young too, that just tells them its ok. Don't tell them that most of their friends moms were a bunch of whores and don't even know who the dads are. ESPECIALLY PUBLICALLY. I can not stress enough how tacky this is to do it on a website. Imagine going in a restaurant and hearing all this, that is exactly what they are doing, but on a much larger scale. Its not just the 50 other people in the restaurant hearing you fight, its the hundreds/thousands/millions that see it (both from viewing the actual site looking for tickets, and all the others that see it posted elsewhere such as FS)
You want your daughter to act like a mature adult, try acting like a mature adult yourself.
I think this would have been way more effective if it just said "and to think, you and your friends thought this was a bluff"
And, listen hear BITCH, my mother was not trolloping around, okay? A lot of single moms don't "trollop" around. In case you haven't noticed, it takes literally one instance of sex in order to get pregnant. That's hardly trolloping around, asshole. And, honestly, I'd rather be a single mom and raise my child. Besides, a lot of women, when they become single moms, they're making the right choices because their husbands or boyfriends were abusive and would've hurt the kid just as much as they hurt them. Next time think before you make some comment that clearly was not thought all the way through.
Anyways - parenting: you're doing it wrong mom selling tickets.
Anyways, I don't think the selling the tickets was bad. I mean, like I said, selling the tickets and perhaps embarrassing them a bit would be fine, but this was over the line and, as someone else said, very tacky. I really feel as though the mother was acting incredibly immature.
Anyways, all parents are tired of their kids shit but I still don't believe this is the way to fix it, no matter how aggravating they may be.
Also, I know no one asked about my home life, but I said it anyways. No one asked you to make this comment, and yet you did. Why the rudeness, too? I know I was rude, and that was shitty of me, but why you?
I never said it was about the single-mothers, but that doesn't mean it's
The sex with the old men was definitely wrong, though. But I didn't say it wasn't. I said that I definitely agreed with her selling the tickets and embarrassing the girl a bit, but the mother became extremely rude and immature and I didn't like that.
And when. I said the one time thing, I mean that everyone who has ever had a one-night-stand (excluding homosexuals) could've gotten pregnant, but t
Anyways, what is up with you? I'm not trying to be rude (except for a couple of times where I lost my temper). I'm sorry if I offended you in any way.
Okay, here's how I look at parenting: you're to support your child, guide your child, and discipline if necessary. Obviously her mom was doing the right thing by selling the tickets. She was doing the right thing embarrassing her on the Internet. But this woman
But you're completely right. I was judging unjustly while also saying don't judge unjustly and just being a huge hypocrite in general. Sorry about that. You're totally right.
I think I do it a lot because I hold back so many of my opinions and annoyance of humanity in general that I become this big ball of stress and I just kinda release it through Internet.
@nataliechip64 Haha, I was laughing at that exact same thing. XD
Maybe the problem is that you're personalizing it too much. More insight into their home life would help, of course, but that's obviously not going to happen.
Lastly, I'd hope that you all would not be afraid to be honest with your kids, and not worry about being "rude". Kids should know that they'll be bombarded with bullshit the rest of their lives, but they shouldn't have to worry about their parents being a source of it. I'd rather my kid not like me, but be able to trust me, than vice versa.
Also, just because kids receive bullshit from each other doesn't mean they understand it as bullshit. Many kids, and adults as well, can be surprisingly gullible. For proof, you need look no further than this website, and the amount of people who think that if someone posted something, it must 100% of the time be true. Some even get verbally abusive if you do so much as cast a little light on the subject at hand.
Lastly, I would HOPE that I'd never have to go as far as this mother did, but sometimes, despite our best efforts, some kids just turn out bad. There inevitably comes a day where you simply have no choice but to do something like this.
There's just too many other things going on that affect kids to ensure that yours will turn out good. I mean, there's the media and peer pressure and so much other shit going on that it's impossible to tell. People just deal with things differently.
Soooooooooooooo BRING ON THE DISLIKES
Watcha gunna do,parent who did this?!?HHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMM???????
Now, as to how the mom reacted AFTER the "we are taking away the tickets and selling them" THIS is bad parenting. If your child does something wrong, TALK TO THEM about what they did wrong, why its wrong, what their punishment is, etc. Don't passive aggressively bitch at them in a public forum so the world can see it. Don't tell them you and all your friends were a bunch of "trollops"
You want your daughter to act like a mature adult, try acting like a mature adult yourself.