Checkmate darwin

i think its more just choosing not even engage on this level of stupidity

So your argument is I am just too stupid to understand your infinite wisdom? Give me one reason what I said is stupid. It is fact.

Nah, evolution is.

Are we having an argument here?
Over evo-fucking-lution?
This is why ScienceSubstance is actually dying

If you cannot prove what I said wrong, then I win. The human brain is the most complex structure in the universe, and the simplest cell known to man is still irreducibly complex. Evolution is not science, were you sitting down one day looking at the houses and the sunset in the trees saying "hey I bet this all happened over millions of years!" like I did with God, doing research to find the right God? Or were you taught evolution since childhood and now cant beleive anything else?

No, that is not how it works.
Both in the context of scientific claims and the logical progerssion of an argument, the burden of proof lies with the claimant. It is not the responsibility of either the other debater or the audience to prove the claimant wrong.
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If you want to make claims, challenge the status quo, that is fine. You however better bring your fucking A game. There are loads of scientificly literate and science enthusiast members here on FS and we have little patience for foolishness.
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Fear not, serosenpai. ScienceSubstance is not dying. Not on my watch. I may not have the time... or more likely the patience to reply to everything, but I'm here and I'm watching. Like now, I'll step in when I think I'm needed. I, or one of the others... we're still here, waiting in the wings.

i think all trees are annoyed rabbits that magically transformed themselves in order to really screw over the foxes. if you cannot prove me wrong, or do not even think arguing over this is worth your time, i win and am automatically right.

I said things are too complex to have just happened, that is fact, trees being rabbits is not fact.

Okay, the next reply should be something reasonable about these incredibly vastly complex sructures not having to have been designed.

Prove that God exists. With facts.

Or prove that evolution is false, with facts, and not this "complex cells" stuff, because while we are complex creatures, that does not disprove evolution.

I can't prove that God exists, I can logically conclude evolution is ridiculous, I am NOT presenting evidence for God but you can try to present evidence for evolution.

when you challenge accepted fact the onus is on you, evolution evidence is everywhere it is not on anyone else to provide you the links. when you challenge accepted fact you must provide YOUR evidence, if i were to claim seeds did not make plants, it is not your job to show me they do, you have been presented evidence of evolution your whole life, it is up to you to explain why the evidence is wrong not demand to see the proof again.

I shall now present to you just a small portion of evidence for evolution, as you asked: One aspect is that we can actually see things evolve. Larger evolutional changes take place over millions of years, but with rapidly reproducing bacteria, plants, and animals you can see how the changes and stimulate this in a lab (it's called experimental evolution). For example, there is a long term study being conducted to observe the bacteria E.coli as it evolves over time. They have observed genetic changes in 12 colonies of the bacteria since 1988, including but not limited to an increase in fitness and the ability to use citrate as an energy source. Bacteria are only one case of visible evolution. Another is apparent in humans: some people are lactose intolerant and others are not. All mammals are inherently lactose intolerant. The lactase enzyme found in mammalian young is use to digest milk from their mother. When the baby grows up they loose the enzyme as they have no need for it.

As humans began to eat cheese and milk we started to retain the enzyme throughout our adulthood allowing use to digest dairy with ease. Not all people can digest lactase though, because not all groups of humans started eating milk in the same quantities others did, allowing for a variation in how long a person can retain their enzymes. One last point I have is for agriculture. I will use carrots as an example; carrots aren’t supposed to be orange. Originally carrots were white, yellow, or purple and you can find these varieties still in existence. Humans (specifically the Dutch) cultivated white and yellow carrots to eventually produce the sweeter orange carrot we know. They did this by breeding the sweeter and more desirable carrots together until they came upon the type they wanted. This is just one example of humans modifying their food for better use. And my whole post was just a small sample of evolution visible to us now.

I have not even talked about the fossil and carbon dating evidence. So if you will please go research and inform yourself. Thank you.

Fossil layers can be formed in as little as 14 years, the Lucy skeleton pieces were found miles apart from each other, there are upright fossilized trees, you have no reason to believe evolution other than the fact it has been taught to you all your life, because it is all you have heard your entire life I can not change your mind, God bless you and goodbye.

My last comment was posted at the same time as the last 3, for the different varieties of carrots, you have a set of DNA, lets say you have ACBD, then as carrots go on information is lost and you get BDA instead of ACBD, humans will not have golden eyes because the information for golden eyes is not there, I will no longer argue with you, God bless you and goodbye.

Thats not science.

I'm not sure how your counterargument disproves evolution. But I returned to say that I was born and raised Christian. I believe that God exists, but I also believe in evolution. Just as you can't say God doesn't exist (because we can't know for sure) you can't disprove evolution because there is so much evidence.

How about this? Both of you shut up, believe in what you want, down vote what comments you don't like, and be done?
I'm guessing you won't. Why? Because this generation can't end an argument.