Wow. I really sympathize with this. And what's worse is the girls who go "I'm not like other girls" contributing to the problem. I hope for my potential children someday things will be better. I'm only 22 but I still feel that gender equality (at least socially and ideologically) will be better and healthier after my time. I can only hope I find a mate to help foster better values in our kids and a society that will help not hurt.
Maybe if girls wouldn't keep judging each other you would all be happier. Pretty sure most guys just wanna get your number whatever of these groups you fall within.
That's not even what this is saying. There are tons of men who criticize girls for liking Starbucks or video games or anything, really. It doesn't matter what a girl's interest is, she's still criticized for it. It's not talking about competition among women or judgment amongst women. It's talking about all the guys that constantly make fun of teenage girls for pretty much any reason they can think of.
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Hmmm... I think possibly the first part is somewhat true. HOWEVER I would have to say as a girl I personally feel that I am conditioned to be against other girls for the attention of men even when I know better... That being said the second part of your statement is also contributing to the problem. Men/boys should not just be out to get my number. Not all girls are the same and should not be seen as interchangeable fair game for whatever score you're (or whoever) is trying to make.
girls vs. girls really is the issue that needs to be conquered first, because by cutting our potential allies down we make it impossible to stand strong together, once women start supporting each other, it'll be easier to ask/demand that the opposite gender also stop trying to define how we should act.
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Yes. Stand together and say "hey I am not against this gender for xyz ridiculous reason and i want to fight for our equality as well as the rights of other genders to recognize the inequalities they suffer and to do away with those as well"
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I know this has been reposted many times but ti'm fine with it. It's so true. Honestly if a teenaged girl likes anything they are labelled and it's like OHHHHH NOOOooOOoO BAD YOU LIKE THE SAME THING AS SOMEONE ELSE GOD FORBID SOMETHING CALLED a *whispers loudly* TRENDDDDDD oHH DeaAR LOrdY ME oh MY
Everyone cares what other people think- at least to some degree. But the main point is that these are TEENAGE girls. Your adolescent and teenage years are crucial for social development. If you're constantly picked on and told that the things you like are bad or wrong, what kind of effect do you think that's going to have on an already emotional, impressionable teenage girl?
An important social development is to realize no ones opinion matters but your own
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Well, that's pretty hard. And most people don't learn that until later years. As a teenage girl, I can say that I care quite a bit what others think about me.
Well coming from a teenage guy I can say it's not easy I struggle with it myself and it's pretty shitty going through that with so many people judging you and everything you do but hey that's life there'll always be people like that but that should never stop you from being yourself and doing what makes you happy
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Thank you. Iv been thinking and dealing wi th thid kind of crap since junior high. Someone has finally put it into words. We re damned if we do and dammed if we dont.
Guys get it pretty rough too though.... society just sucks.
Every group has a criticism for every other group.
If any denomination adds up everything that anyone criticises them for, then of course they'll be criticised for everything.
And guys have it the same. If you go into the world thinking that people will only judge one side of something you are DEAD wrong my friend. With our population you are going to get groups who dislike side A and people who dislike side b. Deal with it and move on. Personally, the only times I've ever heard people talk about sides was when someone was trying too hard to appear a certain way.
Story time:
I know a girl whose only goal in life is to try and get people to call out what she's doing so she can say "You don't like the way I am?". Recently, she held hands with another girl when walking in the hallway just to see if an AP would stop her. Of course one did because pda isn't really allowed at our school. Even though she knew this she attempted her normal song and dance, and still got a warning 'cause AP's don't care.
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I personally hate this.
You like politics? Okay, just don't make other people hate you for it.
Combat boots are your thing? Great! Awesome! I hope you have a great time with them!
Your hobby's video games? Let me join in!
You have low-self-esteem? Well, you look awesome today and I hope it stays that way!
This is actually very true
I like fallout boy, P!atd, mcr and let other people hear it then I'm called emo
If i listen to J-Pop and such then I'm a weeb
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I hate the word weeaboo.
Yes, I like anime.
Yes, it is Japanese.
No, I in no way want to be Japanese
Yes, I want to visit Japan.
No, I will not be an idiot tourist and act like I fell from an anime.
Finally, no I am not an otaku(they devote their entire life to anime, which I don't).
Sounds more like you hate it when weeaboo is used inappropriately, rather than not liking the word itself. Is it fine to call a weeb a weeb?
Also, otaku aren't limited to anime. They can devote themselves to manga, light novels, video games, and other such things as well.
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No, it's not fine. it's an insult.
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It really depends on whether or not the receiver admits themselves to be a weeaboo. It's kind of like calling someone gay - if they are a homosexual, they won't have any problem with it. If they AREN'T a homosexual, they might take offense.
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TL;DR only call someone a weeb if they admit to being a weeb
@serosenpai
So, what? You can't call a thief a thief, or a vandal a vandal? You're not allowed to call anyone a bad thing, even if they are that bad thing?
@morrelli707
So your not allowed to call people things they don't think they are? You're not allowed to call an alcoholic an alcoholic unless he admits it, or tell some whose terrible at keeping secrets that they're terrible at keeping secrets unless they acknowledge that?
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I never said you're not allowed to - I said that they might take offense.
Yeah, "allowed" was a stronger word than I should have used. Would you say you shouldn't call people things they don't think they are? Or are you just pointing out that they may take offense?
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if they meet all the requirements and/or they say they are, they aren't.
My personal philosophy is: as long as no one is getting hurt, I literally do not care what you do.
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You want to take a trillion selfies in the bathroom? That's A-Okay with me, just make sure you don't get in anyone's way if they need to wash their hands or something.
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You want to go to Starbucks and buy the most stereotypical "white girl" drink? You fucking do it, my friend! If anyone gives you shit, tell them to fuck off to Dunkin Donuts.
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Wanna dress "like a hipster?" I'll just assume you like that style of clothing, not that you think you liked everything "before it was cool."
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Wear a short skirt and a crop top and I won't think you're a whore, I'll just admire that you have the confidence to show off your body.
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Point is, you can look and act however you want and, as long as you're not doing anyone any harm like I said, I will not judge you for it. (This all goes for guys too, by the way, even though we're talking about girls right now).
Sorry for the length, I just get really bothered by stuff like this. Like, Jesus Christ, just let people be people.
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Preach it, Ms. LovelyTits. Preach it.
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That philosophy is lovely. My cousin taught me not to label girls as sluts or whores or anything because it's their bodies and they can do what they want with it; it's none of my business what they do.
My childhood must've been really sheltered because I don't remember being ridiculed like this. I was made fun of but because of me as an individual, not for being a girl who fit a stereotype.
I was never really made fun of at all (besides by my sister) but that's probably because I never interacted much with very many people. Good thing, too, considering how much shit I give /myself/.
location matters, different places have different values and thus kids see a different side of things... i feel like where i live now people worry about hassling people over stupid shit, but i grew up in appleton, WI., and even 15-20 years ago when i was preteen/teening it up it was different there, i was unpopular, but there that just meant i got left out of the loop, and there were still groups of kids who purposely hung out with the odd kids, gay kids were just as likely to popular, the popular kids tended to make a point of hanging out the mentally handicapped kids (i went to the newest of the cities schools so i think because we had the uptodate facilities a large portion of the cities special ed kids where there) and none of this shit where kids record each other fighting and it gets on the news (like happens here) happened there.
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Maybe it's time too because my high school years were 13-17 years ago. I remember just being largely ignored, not worth noticing. My friends made fun of me because my parents were strict and because I was weird. It's interesting how things like that change over time.
Deviledapple, my town is very similar. Of course there are still a few jerks mixed in the crowd, but for the most part people are pretty calm about things. At least, I think my school is. It was when I went there but I've been out for about a year and change.
I just love seeing things like this because you people do know there is something like this for every race/religion/sex/other stuff and everyone says they are sick of it well you know what I thought to myself and I was like so what now I live with like no stress because I don't care what other people think of me. I do whatever I feel like doing I recommend you just let it go.
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Good point but ignoring an issue does not resolve an issue. People who are bothered by the opinions of others are not inherently wrong. Sometimes being offended or bothered etc is a sign that there needs to be a change while admittedly other times it does not. But in this instance I feel that enough people have expressed indignance and so should pursue a change.
so what do you recommend people do how would they pursue a change other than not care if something actually organized came up I doubt it would work let alone reach the entire world
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Honestly I'm not exactly sure. All I know is that social change has and continues to happen all the time. Only a few years ago I was in high school and people talked about gay as being a choice but now the discussion has changed. I think with outspoken people, anecdotes of how one is affected etc have come to change the way people think about things that used to be generally accepted.
Teenage girl here. Imma speak my mind and well, frankly, I'll rub you the wrong. You're warned.
Personally, I've never heard anyone label other people things (and if I do, I'll say something bout it). I don't think it's as common as we think it is because 1. Everyone thinks they're a victim in most situations and 2. A lot of people jump to conclusions - almost everyone in fact. Also, complaining about these things when there are bigger and more significant problems in the world, it just puts this "problem" at, well, the bottom of a list of problems. If you don't feed the beast, then it'll have no strength. Just my opinion.
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This is what I just read " I've never experienced the thing you guys are talking about but here's my opinion on it anyway"
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There are always going to be bigger and more significant problems than the ones at hand. Also sometimes you have to solve the little ones to work up to big issue solutions.
But yea I get you. Let's not feed the beast. I'll keep that in mind.
I hope you realize you can go both ways with this, I can say that if a guy likes football he is thought of as a dumb jock, and if he doesn't, he is a socially awkward nerd, If a guy is confident when talking to women he is a douchebag player, if he is shy he is socially awkward or a creeper. Girls do have it worse when it comes to being a slut or not. But everyone faces judgement and how you deal with it is up to you. As a teenage guy, I don't go around judging girls based on their interests because I have better things to do, and it is the same with most other guys. Nobody but your friends care about your interests or how you act for the most part. Sure every once in a while some asshole comes along, but for the most part the world and everyone around you isn't criticizing you based on your interests and decision making bc nobody cares.
It goes for guys too. Girls are HELLA judgemental towards guys. If he's into comics or video games he's a geek, if he's really into school he's a giant nerd.
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That's very true. I personally don't put labels to the "nerds" or "geeks", however, I do judge jocks and such, which I shouldn't.
If she cares about what people think of her, she should stop taking up spaces in our popular page, just to whine.
WHY DO U CARE ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT YOU.
and if you do, COMPLAIN TO YOUR MOM INSTEAD.
(two different points above)
That makes it sound like you don't know what "necessary" means. Regardless, that last sentence definitely suggests that this applies only to girls, however you're correct that it doesn't outright say so.
Guys get it pretty rough too though.... society just sucks.
If any denomination adds up everything that anyone criticises them for, then of course they'll be criticised for everything.
Story time:
I know a girl whose only goal in life is to try and get people to call out what she's doing so she can say "You don't like the way I am?". Recently, she held hands with another girl when walking in the hallway just to see if an AP would stop her. Of course one did because pda isn't really allowed at our school. Even though she knew this she attempted her normal song and dance, and still got a warning 'cause AP's don't care.
You like politics? Okay, just don't make other people hate you for it.
Combat boots are your thing? Great! Awesome! I hope you have a great time with them!
Your hobby's video games? Let me join in!
You have low-self-esteem? Well, you look awesome today and I hope it stays that way!
I like fallout boy, P!atd, mcr and let other people hear it then I'm called emo
If i listen to J-Pop and such then I'm a weeb
Yes, I like anime.
Yes, it is Japanese.
No, I in no way want to be Japanese
Yes, I want to visit Japan.
No, I will not be an idiot tourist and act like I fell from an anime.
Finally, no I am not an otaku(they devote their entire life to anime, which I don't).
Also, otaku aren't limited to anime. They can devote themselves to manga, light novels, video games, and other such things as well.
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TL;DR only call someone a weeb if they admit to being a weeb
So, what? You can't call a thief a thief, or a vandal a vandal? You're not allowed to call anyone a bad thing, even if they are that bad thing?
@morrelli707
So your not allowed to call people things they don't think they are? You're not allowed to call an alcoholic an alcoholic unless he admits it, or tell some whose terrible at keeping secrets that they're terrible at keeping secrets unless they acknowledge that?
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You want to take a trillion selfies in the bathroom? That's A-Okay with me, just make sure you don't get in anyone's way if they need to wash their hands or something.
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You want to go to Starbucks and buy the most stereotypical "white girl" drink? You fucking do it, my friend! If anyone gives you shit, tell them to fuck off to Dunkin Donuts.
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Wanna dress "like a hipster?" I'll just assume you like that style of clothing, not that you think you liked everything "before it was cool."
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Wear a short skirt and a crop top and I won't think you're a whore, I'll just admire that you have the confidence to show off your body.
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Point is, you can look and act however you want and, as long as you're not doing anyone any harm like I said, I will not judge you for it. (This all goes for guys too, by the way, even though we're talking about girls right now).
Personally, I've never heard anyone label other people things (and if I do, I'll say something bout it). I don't think it's as common as we think it is because 1. Everyone thinks they're a victim in most situations and 2. A lot of people jump to conclusions - almost everyone in fact. Also, complaining about these things when there are bigger and more significant problems in the world, it just puts this "problem" at, well, the bottom of a list of problems. If you don't feed the beast, then it'll have no strength. Just my opinion.
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There are always going to be bigger and more significant problems than the ones at hand. Also sometimes you have to solve the little ones to work up to big issue solutions.
But yea I get you. Let's not feed the beast. I'll keep that in mind.
WHY DO U CARE ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT YOU.
and if you do, COMPLAIN TO YOUR MOM INSTEAD.
(two different points above)