This girl always wore these tiny ass shorts to school and our dress code says nothing above the knees but she never got in trouble but when I wear something with my knees showing I got in trouble
UK dress codes are even more stupid.
Most dictate what colour your coat has to be, what colour your socks have to be, dress shoes, (Like what the hell, I'm going to school, not meeting the queen or going to work) no jeans, certain hairstyle, certain hair colour, etc.
I almost got in trouble for having a dark olive coloured coat, and I had a massive argument with the deputy head about how my coat affected my education, to the point that she stood in the corridor stopping me from going to my next lesson.
Oh yeah, and some boy got sent to isolation because his hair was too short. Like number two all over.
Public schools are such a joke.
some schools have specific colours, more of an attempt to create a streamlined look without actually having uniforms, while i dislike regular dress codes, i see the sense in these.... removes certain things from the equation, like trying to decide what is and isn't a gang symbol. these schools will frequently HAVE uniforms but have a set of guidelines for things that can be worn not purchased from the school.
some rules are made to be broken, such as the ones that only penalise girls and not boys. Or the rules that keep teaching girls that our bodies need to be hidden for our safety. FUck those rules.
"some rules are made to be broken"
What? No they're not, that would be ridiculous. Why would someone make a rule if they wanted it to be broken?
"such as the ones that only penalise girls and not boys."
Girls and boys have different body parts that are considered indecent. This doesn't even usually apply to schools, as their dress codes are normally based on promoting modesty, not preventing indecency.
"Or the rules that keep teaching girls that our bodies need to be hidden for our safety."
It's the same thing as telling people not to walk around with money falling out of their pockets so they don't get mugged. You *will* be safer that way.
Here's the thing. If there is a dress code follow the dress code. No being able to show your shoulders at school when you are 12 is not a civil liberties atrocity. At 12 - 17 if you have the luxury of bare shoulders being your biggest issue then you are lucky.
Here's the thing. Sometimes dress codes that are too strict cause problems for girls. On hot days, wearing pants (often the only option with some strict codes) isn't practical.
dress codes need to be at least equal for the genders or it IS a civil liberties atrocity. certain things that are not clothing have no place in the dress code either, like haircuts and the like. i can see MAYBE restricting styling of the hair in obtrusive manners (what i am picturing here is like hair sprayed up in a way that it blocks views, like huge Mohawks or giant beehives), but the actual cut and color should not be dictated by schools.
schools = govt = the people = the people establish the rules = the peoples opinions on the rules are important and open for discussion on what they should be. you arent going to get any "rules are meant to be broken" stuff from me but they ARE meant to questioned and they ARE meant to challenged and they DO need to be held up to our standards... like no gender discrimination. thats how our entire system is supposed to work. none of this "if you dont like how it is in MY school/country/nation/city then LEAVE" bullshit.
because god forbid i make a general statement about the general state of affairs without taking time to draw out a plan for each and every variation from the norm
There are a lot of private schools, so that's a lot of schools that don't fall under your blanket equation.
If you really are just talking about public schools you have a point.
Do you think it's bad for schools to teach modesty?
i am talking mostly about public schools, but to some degree private ones as well, we have laws about equality that apply to businesses and that's what a private school is and the laws of equality should apply to how children are made to dress. honestly i have no real issue with uniforms and the such, i think that shits fine, and even helps minimize things like income disparity, but i think you cannot pick a gender and say its wrong for them to show shoulders and clavicle and not the other, and i think the laws regarding gender equality should apply to children in the public and private schools the same way it would the employees. i have a problem with the whole concept of modesty... sure, teach kids not to whip out their genitals in school, that totally makes sense, but a lot of the idea behind "modesty" is not a concept i can get behind and not something i want anyone ingraining into my children.
Most dictate what colour your coat has to be, what colour your socks have to be, dress shoes, (Like what the hell, I'm going to school, not meeting the queen or going to work) no jeans, certain hairstyle, certain hair colour, etc.
I almost got in trouble for having a dark olive coloured coat, and I had a massive argument with the deputy head about how my coat affected my education, to the point that she stood in the corridor stopping me from going to my next lesson.
Oh yeah, and some boy got sent to isolation because his hair was too short. Like number two all over.
Public schools are such a joke.
What? No they're not, that would be ridiculous. Why would someone make a rule if they wanted it to be broken?
"such as the ones that only penalise girls and not boys."
Girls and boys have different body parts that are considered indecent. This doesn't even usually apply to schools, as their dress codes are normally based on promoting modesty, not preventing indecency.
"Or the rules that keep teaching girls that our bodies need to be hidden for our safety."
It's the same thing as telling people not to walk around with money falling out of their pockets so they don't get mugged. You *will* be safer that way.
>private schools don't exist
If you really are just talking about public schools you have a point.
Do you think it's bad for schools to teach modesty?