I don't know who told you that. BLM doesn't even say that... It's not about the numbers. It's about the obvious racism that happens with SOME law enforcement officers.
Okay, where in the world have you seen that guest? Because from everything I've observed, BLM is only about /Black/ lives matter. They don't seem to care about anyone else, especially how now my father, a white cop, can't go to his job and be respected and appreciated because when he waved at a little black boy who waved to him, the boy's mother immediately assumed the worst and said "Don't do that. He'll shoot you." I'm really getting sick of the BLM thing, and the people who keep pretending like they're from everyone's rights.
Sorry, not true. Not even close.
Yes blm claims cops are murdering innocent blacks left and right. Never mind the fact that there have been A LOT of black officers involved in shootings, and recent research has shown that black officers are far more likely to fire their weapons sooner than white officers.
And no one is talking about "obvious racism of some", the claim is that ALL cops are murderers.
I hate getting into these things but can you blame her? Shining examples of police officers are always shoved aside for the scandals, the breakthroughs, the racists. BLM is mostly seen as a bad organization, because that's how they're portrayed. Example: Black Lives Matter stopped a PRIDE parade. True, but they stopped it for 30 minutes, the amount of time it took the organizers to sign a contract agreeing to include more POC LGBT floats. Everyone, no matter who you are or what you do, will be judged on their bad apples.
So Black Lives Matter had to stop a gay parade in order to force them o include gay people? Color me sceptical but regardless you are describing terroristic tactics. Sounds like quality bunch to me. And bad apples? You mean like the blm "activists" that assault people? Maybe the ones that kill cops? Perhaps you refer to the blm "leaders" who call for these things to happen?
Okay, thanks for focusing on only one part of that comment. I meant, and perhaps I should've worded it differently, that not all BLM protesters are bad, just like not all cops are racist, not all Muslim's are terrorists, not all Mexicans are dirty and so on and so forth. We are always going to be judged on our bad examples, and that doesn't mean an entire group is wholly evil.
Yes not all of any of these groups are bad, certainly. But would you say that not all Al-Quaeda members are bad? Not all ISIS? Blm, as an "organization" stands for pro-black racism and anti-white and anti-police violence. Thus, we can assume they are bad by association.
Btw I focused on what I thought was the most salient point given our limited room to type here.
BLM doesnt seem to be fighting racism. They're sowing the seeds for preferential treatment, and segregration. Anyone who does want change without being part of a loud whiny narrative about assumed victimhood trying dividing americans by skin color and occupation should jump ship and assume a new name.
If you take out the 'unknown' category, 26.5% of people killed by cops are black, and yet they only make up 13% of the U.S. population....
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But you're forgetting the fact that black pekple are much more likely to commit dangerous crimes that would require a cop to use lethal force, this is something people seem to completely ignore
im on my phone too but you can look at fbis docjmentation of crimesn and see the demographic race of the people who commit them.
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I was looking up homicide statistics for a paper of mines a while ago and i read from a credible source that 47.4% of all homicides in the year 2010 were committed by black people, I'd put the source but I'm on my phone
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I'll post it as soon as I can, if I remember that is
I've found the same stats doing my own research. Blacks commit the highest levels of violent crime, and are also the victims of the most violent crime (committed by other blacks). You're not allowed to point out such things though; it doesn't fit the narrative of rampant racism.
For those reading this who are not closed-minded, this is not to say that black people are worse than white people, and race really has nothing in it. What we are looking at is primarily gang violence, but it just happens that more blacks are in gangs than whites.
If a higher percentage of violent criminals police encounter are black, it stands to reason that a higher percentage of use of force would involve black subjects. Seems like simple math.
Sorry nope. Okay I'm sooo gonna get downvoted. ((Smh the shit I get myself into.))
Also, before I start, this shit ain't even FUN mate, and this is is FUNsubstance.
Firstly, let's look at the percentage of black people in the US.
The Internet (refer to where I got my information I get in the links below) says that black people make up 12.3 percent of people in the US. According to this table, black people make up approximately 24 percent of the people killed by police in 2016. That's twice as much as the percentage of black people in the US.
Now, let's talk about the percentage of white people in the US, it's at a 75.1 percent. So, according to this table, white people make up approximately 46 percent of the people killed. But the amount of white people in the US make up around twice that amount!
Looking at the facts, don't you think that it's extremely disproportionate?
Conclusion: The amount of people killed doesn't actually represent everything. There are a lot more factors
that only counts if you consider getting shot by police as an act of god that anyone is susceptible to. this is twisting information to change the facts. STOP IT! you are practically lying.. actually. no, you ARE lying to people. that is like saying that people in WI are as likely to die in an earthquake as people in CA.
if you do it the right way and include interactions by police you'll find that white are even FAR MORE LIKELY to be shot by police than blacks are. the reason for this is due to cops being afraid to discharge onto blacks due to fear of being called a racist. this has also lead to more cops being murdered by black offenders.
stop twisting the information. you only make the problems worse.
I mean 1 there's 26 times as many white peoples than black people in the us and there's only twice as many white deaths than black deaths so proportionately there's something wrong there but that is halfway explained by the fact that black people commit more crimes. Also, no one ever said all police related deaths are black or racism. It's just that racist police related deaths do happen and it's an issue. Basically all police related deaths that are unjustifiable no matter the race are an issue because the officers get away with a senseless murder. Of course this isn't to say all cops are like this. 99.9% of cops are good people doing an important and brave job. Yeah a lot of these incidents aren't very black and white (not race but the morality figure of speech), but there are still a lot that are. Take Philando Castille or the white kid who got tased until clinically dead.
For the most part I agree with you, but you are still buying the false premise of police brutality. The entire narrative is a complete fabrication.
Try reading "The War on Cops" by Heather MacDonald. She presents some interesting statistics.
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the statement that white are 26x of that of blacks are wrong. it is more 5.5x.
using the average based off of the population is flawed. deaths by meteorite may work that way, but not death by cop.
black cops are far more likely to kill black people.
lastly philando case is still giving us data. recent facts are that he matched the eye witness of the person to rob the gas station, he had a gun in his lap and didn't drop it when the cop told him to. more evidence is that he WAS the guy in the robbery, though no official release of it.
No. Unless you are trying to assert that those were senseless murders committed by maniacal racist cops those perpetrators did something to cause their own deaths. They broke laws, they fought with the police, they drew weapons, etc. I have no sympathy for a criminal who dies because of his own actions.
I know a lot of current and retired cops. They aim for center mass - that is the surest way to stop the perpetrator. Someone shot in the legs can still lift a gun to shoot or throw a knife.
It's not proportional.
If there were equal amounts of white and black people in america then yes it wouldn't make sense but there are more white people then black people so it is likely that indeed more white people would have been killed. Also, a lot of it is about the reasons behind killing somebody. Philando Castile was shot because he reached to get his wallet. If he had been white that likely wouldn't have happened. That is what people have a problem with. You shouldn't be more likely to get shot because of the color of your skin.
Doesn't matter what color your skin is you don't fucking reach for anything after telling a cop you've got a fucking gun!!!!!
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that is flawed logic and you know it.
sitting in your room you have the same likelihood of being hit by a meteorite as anyone else. but sitting in your room you don't have the same likelihood of being shot by cop as someone pointing a gun at a cop.
you want to play this game properly you need to base it off of the crime rate and interaction with police, then base that off of the race of the people shot. there you will find that whites are even higher risk of being shot by police.
it is hard to find concrete data on it, so take it as you may, but black cops are more likely to kill black people than white cops. in fact i remember reading about how white cops are more hesitant to shoot a black person due to fear of being called a racist. bringing the death toll of cops higher.
Yes!!!! Someone else attention!
What you are probably referring to is a recent study by Roland G Fryer, an economics professor at Harvard. He is black, and believed the lies like so many others out there, but unlike so many in the Twittersphere he actually decided to look into it. He found minorities are more likely to be physically "handled" by white officers, but that white officers are far less likely to use deadly force.
Yes blm claims cops are murdering innocent blacks left and right. Never mind the fact that there have been A LOT of black officers involved in shootings, and recent research has shown that black officers are far more likely to fire their weapons sooner than white officers.
And no one is talking about "obvious racism of some", the claim is that ALL cops are murderers.
Btw I focused on what I thought was the most salient point given our limited room to type here.
There are several links I'd like to include but I'm on my phone at the moment.
For those reading this who are not closed-minded, this is not to say that black people are worse than white people, and race really has nothing in it. What we are looking at is primarily gang violence, but it just happens that more blacks are in gangs than whites.
Also, before I start, this shit ain't even FUN mate, and this is is FUNsubstance.
Firstly, let's look at the percentage of black people in the US.
The Internet (refer to where I got my information I get in the links below) says that black people make up 12.3 percent of people in the US. According to this table, black people make up approximately 24 percent of the people killed by police in 2016. That's twice as much as the percentage of black people in the US.
Now, let's talk about the percentage of white people in the US, it's at a 75.1 percent. So, according to this table, white people make up approximately 46 percent of the people killed. But the amount of white people in the US make up around twice that amount!
Looking at the facts, don't you think that it's extremely disproportionate?
Conclusion: The amount of people killed doesn't actually represent everything. There are a lot more factors
to consider.
Thanks for reading! :)
References:
1. http://www.infoplease.com/us/census/data/demographic.html
if you do it the right way and include interactions by police you'll find that white are even FAR MORE LIKELY to be shot by police than blacks are. the reason for this is due to cops being afraid to discharge onto blacks due to fear of being called a racist. this has also lead to more cops being murdered by black offenders.
stop twisting the information. you only make the problems worse.
Try reading "The War on Cops" by Heather MacDonald. She presents some interesting statistics.
using the average based off of the population is flawed. deaths by meteorite may work that way, but not death by cop.
black cops are far more likely to kill black people.
lastly philando case is still giving us data. recent facts are that he matched the eye witness of the person to rob the gas station, he had a gun in his lap and didn't drop it when the cop told him to. more evidence is that he WAS the guy in the robbery, though no official release of it.
if that went down we wouldn't need police.
If there were equal amounts of white and black people in america then yes it wouldn't make sense but there are more white people then black people so it is likely that indeed more white people would have been killed. Also, a lot of it is about the reasons behind killing somebody. Philando Castile was shot because he reached to get his wallet. If he had been white that likely wouldn't have happened. That is what people have a problem with. You shouldn't be more likely to get shot because of the color of your skin.
sitting in your room you have the same likelihood of being hit by a meteorite as anyone else. but sitting in your room you don't have the same likelihood of being shot by cop as someone pointing a gun at a cop.
you want to play this game properly you need to base it off of the crime rate and interaction with police, then base that off of the race of the people shot. there you will find that whites are even higher risk of being shot by police.
it is hard to find concrete data on it, so take it as you may, but black cops are more likely to kill black people than white cops. in fact i remember reading about how white cops are more hesitant to shoot a black person due to fear of being called a racist. bringing the death toll of cops higher.
What you are probably referring to is a recent study by Roland G Fryer, an economics professor at Harvard. He is black, and believed the lies like so many others out there, but unlike so many in the Twittersphere he actually decided to look into it. He found minorities are more likely to be physically "handled" by white officers, but that white officers are far less likely to use deadly force.