It's not about personal achievement. It's about acceptance. Both accepting it yourself and others accepting it as well. Racism and bigotry still exist. Being proud of who you are is a huge slap in the face to the people who look down on you for it. That's the best way to beat them.
I see your point but I think we should all be proud of who we are no matter what, we can be proud of our achievements but we should be proud of ourselves and love ourselves unconditionally even in spite of any flaws we might have (I'd like to make it clear that being black and/or gay are not the flaws i'm referring to nor are they flaws at all)
i think the bit with the pride is where you're proud of not being scared to say what you are despite knowing that society will give you relentless shit about it.
But.. it literally doesn't work like that? Black pride and gay pride exist solely for the purpose of those people's comfort in a society that is generally not accepting towards them. Black and gay pride is for them being accepting and accepted, loving and loved between and each other. Us white, straight (or both) people have literally no right to keep them from doing that, because none of that applies to us. As a white person I have no right to be mad at black people for being proud, and as a straight person I have no right to be mad when gay people express their pride in themselves and in each other either, so.. yeah, of course - they don't achieve any of those "traits", but that doesn't mean they can't be proud of who they are.
Fair point, but 'pride' in this context doesn't refer to feeling pleased with yourself, it refers to being comfortable with yourself.
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· 8 years ago
I think about this all the time. Like when I came out my sister and aunt were all "I'm so proud of you", but I was just like "????....I'm just being honest about who I am? That doesn't seem like anything to be proud of..." and it still kinda bugs me. The only way I claim pride is that I don't try to hide it or act like I'm ashamed.
I don't know your sister personally, but I think by saying she's proud of you, she meant that she's proud that you were brave enough to come out? Because it can be difficult to do so, for some people. But then again I'm the type of person who doesn't really understand the concept of "coming out" either, like that's nobody's business, you're just being yourself and loving who you love? And you should be proud of being comfortable with yourself I mean does anything really matters other than that?
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· 8 years ago
Well I'd been keeping it from my parents for a while, and it was after I came out to them because I wanted to stop going to church so I thought I should at least tell them why. I think you're right about what my sister meant though. Katie is pretty great, she's always been very accepting and supportive of everyone as long as you aren't deliberately doing harm
It's nice to read things like these, honestly. And by the way high five because you probably don't give a damn about what other people think about you, and that's how it should be.
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· 8 years ago
I give a damn, I just refuse to let other people dictate who I am or how I'm going to live my life
im fucking gay and im fucking proud! wanna know why?? cuz i put up with a bunch of shit my whole entire life im proud to still be here and proud to be different and be able to not pay attention to the assholes in life. tommorrow night i'll be proposing to my amazing girlfriend.
I agree with this... Somewhat
I think that you can be proud, but the thing I don't like is people expect to be respected mote or treated better just because they are gay or black
I know that's your opinion, but that's not true
Many people don't have expectations, they just want to be accepted and live their lives equally to those who people consider "normal" to others and some of them want to be left alone because they are bullied
I'm just saying I don't think it is right to expect me to be different around you just because ------. I will treat you just like I would any other person.
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· 8 years ago
And you just said exactly what they want
To be treated like any other person
In my original comment I said that people shouldn't expect to be treated higher because ----. I just made another comment to clarify some things, not directly as a response
If I ever had children and they told they liked someone the same sex as them, I'd be proud
If they told me they liked someone the opposite sex to them, I'd be proud.
If my little brother told me he was gay, I'd be proud.
If my friend said she was proud to be black, I'd be proud of her too.
I'm not proud because these people are pointing out something they're born with.
I'm proud of them because, despite the negativity and the possibility of harsh commentary and judgment from the rest of the world, they're willing to tell everyone who they are.
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Good luck
I think that you can be proud, but the thing I don't like is people expect to be respected mote or treated better just because they are gay or black
Many people don't have expectations, they just want to be accepted and live their lives equally to those who people consider "normal" to others and some of them want to be left alone because they are bullied
To be treated like any other person
If they told me they liked someone the opposite sex to them, I'd be proud.
If my little brother told me he was gay, I'd be proud.
If my friend said she was proud to be black, I'd be proud of her too.
I'm not proud because these people are pointing out something they're born with.
I'm proud of them because, despite the negativity and the possibility of harsh commentary and judgment from the rest of the world, they're willing to tell everyone who they are.