I'm confused. Genders are equal. Boys and girls can love and do the same things. So why do people feel like the other gender? What does it mean? And why do they accord such importance to just a basic (even if it's stupid) classification that doesn't define the person you are? It seems like a great loss of energy and much ado about nothing. It's actual confusion, if someone could explain...
it's because some boys are born feeling like their birth was incorrect and that they are girls on the inside
the only difference here is that the girl in the post is totally acting out in public and thinks she's getting praised for it. the sad part is that the waiter never says anything in the original post so this girl just rants to her mother and apparently everyone in the restaurant heard and clapped
That's the "feeling like a girl", I don't get what it means (it's kinda frustrating, maybe it's one of those things we can feel but not explain). But yeah, I got that the original post was just a "duh look at me when I play special snowflake" kinda thing, and obviously a fake story.
It's transsexuality. Men and omen have been found to have different brains, and transsexuality is taking a female brain and placing it into a male body, hence a boy feeling as they should be a girl.
The transsexual then makes the decision to change their biological chemistry with hormone treat,went and possible surgeries to adjust their physical appearance and hormone production to match with their brain. For many this is the greatest feeling in the world, many commenting that it's the most normal they ever felt post hormone treatment.
Gender is biological it's to do with the brain and genitals.
This whole 'I'm a series of genders' is a mental health concern.
-posted by a transsexual.
Thanks a lot, you explained where I was stuck (the different brains thing, I just didn't consider it...well, better ask stupid questions for 5 minutes than remain stupid for eternity). Have a nice day!
I know I'm not apart of this but I just wanted to point out how well you guys handle this and how well you asked this question. Usually stuff like this turns ugly or people ask it in a close-minded way so it's nice to see something like this displayed with clarity and respect.
"Gender is biological it's to do with the brain and genitals.
This whole 'I'm a series of genders' is a mental health concern.
-posted by a transsexual."
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Yea, and why should a transsexual person NOT be a narrow minded bigot?
I am transsexual, and being transsexual means you wish you were the opposite gender.
That means (most of the time) you want to have the genitals, social rights (as in wearing makeup, painting nails, etc. for transgirls, which even though everybody says you can, isn't the case. Real life isn't the internet.), overall appearance, etc.
Humanity is the only species to have transsexuality because our complex minds and society created gender roles and differences, while animals are bound to do what their instinct tell them...
Well, i'm shit at explaining. Hope i helped ;;
My theory is that the stereotypes with gender has not died down, and won't for a long time. There could be also different benefits from different sexes too? I go back between a boy and a girl, because I feel like I must experience life as both sexes.
Mainly dysphoria. Basically nonbinary people might feel worn down by being called 'he' or 'she' all the time and feel discomfort with sex characteristics, although this discomfort is milder than it usually is in binary trans people.
I hate it when waiters assume the relationships. I hate it when I went to a restaurant with my dad and a female family friend and the waiter assume we are a family
This one is fake. In the original, the mom says something along the lines of "She's being silly," and the child responds, "And you're being close-minded."
But y'know, the original is fake too.
Okay, I'll bite. Why do y'all care so much about crap that doesn't hurt you? So what if they want to identify as nonbinary? So what if they want to identify as a majestic unicorn with rainbows coming out of the ass? Who the hell cares? They just don't feel like a girl or a boy, get over it. You're going to be okay.
They want to have their own special pronouns, their own bathrooms, and their own accommodations.
Society shouldn't be restructured just because some kids either want to be unique or because they have mental imbalances.
In a position where you KNOW that you're a boy or a girl it's very easy to say that they're just trying to be a special snowflake, sure, some may be but there are people who don't mentally or physically feel that they fit into either category. They may not feel "themselves" as either gender, their sex may be a female or male but inside their heads they don't know so giving them an option is to give them an identity, a label that they feel they belong in. Whoever they want to be they can be, as long as they're happy it shouldn't effect your lives at all
Of course, society runs and is structured around the majority and they're not the majority (not saying we're making them outcasts or rejecting them), but that's the most efficient and functional way
"They want to have their own special pronouns, their own bathrooms, and their own accommodations. " - who wants that? "They" (whoever that would be) want something outside He and She, which we as a society could just try and come up with, if we generally had respect. And the only "accommodation" in question would be public bathrooms, which by the way has been brought up by straight people who want to ban other people from public bathrooms for not being 100% according to a heterosexual norm. So it's actually a certain group of straights who cry like babies for their "safe rooms" here. So, you see any more dangers of a "major restructuring of social structure" you are afraid of?
I also agree with @funsubstanceuser to an extent and also @lenny they ARE NOT mentally ill, mental illness is something that effects your behaviour or thinking to an extent where it hinders you. So no, they are not.
Mental illness is when a person has a chemical imbalance or inconsistency in their brain that alters their attitude or outlook.
And they don't have to be an obvious hinder to the person.
Anyways, gender fluidity, identifying as an animal, and things such as that could only be the result of a chemical imbalance or inconsistency.
So what chemical imbalance or inconsistency is causing your attitude of totally lacking tolerance, empathy and fantasy?
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So being homosexual is also a mental illness? Cause it definitely falls within your definition. Furthermore, it has been argued that very religious people might just have an overactive part in their brain, causing a certain chemical imbalance or inconsistency which may lead them to believe in the presence of higher beings or other fictitious things. Are these people suffering from a mental illness?
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You _really_ like to select and reject people, don't you?
Logic is hardly an imbalance. Or maybe I have sociopathic tendencies? Or maybe everyone else is too much of a bleeding heart to draw a line.
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Gay and bi is consistent.
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I already believe religious extremists to be mentally ill.
Yea, right, I forgot how important logic is when it comes to psychology, emotions and that kind a shit.
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You're just drawing the line somewhere you'd like to see it drawn. But keep telling yourself it's logical.
Here's what I think;
It is completely fine if you identify as a guy. But if you appear as a girl, people will criticize you. That's just how it is.
Edit: If you say you're a guy but you dress like a gal, vice versa.
You can enter only the bathroom you identify as.
But there should not be a major reconstruction of life simply to make a small population feel better. Especially since a lot of these people fall into the shoplifting category, which is, as you'd guess, a group of people that support shoplifting because capitalism is insane. People that willingly steal things when they can easily just go and get a job, do not deserve more rights and pity. They are not special. They're not lower than you or me, but they also aren't perfect.
I don't even know what we are talking about anymore, it's kinda turned into more of a mish mash of peoples thoughts rather then each of us discussing our view points. I have NO idea where banana is coming from. Anyway's I'm out cause I don't know what's even happening anymore and like @spazz says, I'm just gonna get on with my life. Have fun you guys, try to make a little bit more sense if you actually want to get your points across.
Homosexuality had been considered a mental illness by WHO until 1992. And same as back then, the categorization as Gender dysphoria being a pathological state is highly controversial. Federal european laws and many european countries do not consider this as mental illness. Also, gender reassignment would be the cure for many cases of so-called Gender dysphoria, so one might argue if it's not a somatic illness. For a transgender person the main problem is not being the wrong person but having the wrong body. This is getting a psychological problem mainly because of the dickishness of the world around them. Like some idiots calling them mentally ill, or who believe "a lot of them" are shoplifters.
the only difference here is that the girl in the post is totally acting out in public and thinks she's getting praised for it. the sad part is that the waiter never says anything in the original post so this girl just rants to her mother and apparently everyone in the restaurant heard and clapped
The transsexual then makes the decision to change their biological chemistry with hormone treat,went and possible surgeries to adjust their physical appearance and hormone production to match with their brain. For many this is the greatest feeling in the world, many commenting that it's the most normal they ever felt post hormone treatment.
Gender is biological it's to do with the brain and genitals.
This whole 'I'm a series of genders' is a mental health concern.
-posted by a transsexual.
This whole 'I'm a series of genders' is a mental health concern.
-posted by a transsexual."
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Yea, and why should a transsexual person NOT be a narrow minded bigot?
That means (most of the time) you want to have the genitals, social rights (as in wearing makeup, painting nails, etc. for transgirls, which even though everybody says you can, isn't the case. Real life isn't the internet.), overall appearance, etc.
Humanity is the only species to have transsexuality because our complex minds and society created gender roles and differences, while animals are bound to do what their instinct tell them...
Well, i'm shit at explaining. Hope i helped ;;
But y'know, the original is fake too.
Society shouldn't be restructured just because some kids either want to be unique or because they have mental imbalances.
I hate stuff like that.
There are only two genders.
And they don't have to be an obvious hinder to the person.
Anyways, gender fluidity, identifying as an animal, and things such as that could only be the result of a chemical imbalance or inconsistency.
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So being homosexual is also a mental illness? Cause it definitely falls within your definition. Furthermore, it has been argued that very religious people might just have an overactive part in their brain, causing a certain chemical imbalance or inconsistency which may lead them to believe in the presence of higher beings or other fictitious things. Are these people suffering from a mental illness?
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You _really_ like to select and reject people, don't you?
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Gay and bi is consistent.
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I already believe religious extremists to be mentally ill.
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You're just drawing the line somewhere you'd like to see it drawn. But keep telling yourself it's logical.
It is completely fine if you identify as a guy. But if you appear as a girl, people will criticize you. That's just how it is.
Edit: If you say you're a guy but you dress like a gal, vice versa.
You can enter only the bathroom you identify as.
But there should not be a major reconstruction of life simply to make a small population feel better. Especially since a lot of these people fall into the shoplifting category, which is, as you'd guess, a group of people that support shoplifting because capitalism is insane. People that willingly steal things when they can easily just go and get a job, do not deserve more rights and pity. They are not special. They're not lower than you or me, but they also aren't perfect.
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banana, did you have a stroke while posting? Genderfluid persons are likely to be shoplifters? You fucking insane?
It was simply a comparison between the two "fandoms".