And had Hitler actually allowed Rommel to be in charge of the military, I firmly believe Germany would have won WWII. He was that brilliant a commander.
You've never been a soldier if that's what you think. And if you were a soldier, you weren't a good one (maybe by your definition, but that is actually a bad soldier).
what is your definition then? I am trying to say he betrayed his leader your job as a soldier is not to question or attempt to kill your leader but to protect and follow them.
He was a coward not a man but a pig. He knew exactly who adolf hitler was I read his biography there was no deception There was a whole chapter on hate speech towards other races and yet he fought and won battles for him. He knew about everything hitler was doing but he still stood up for him and I can respect that. Instead he turned his back on hitler not because he disagreed with what he did but because he was losing the war. He thought he could get away if he cut off the head. He and all the other swine who turned tail the minute things are not going great. Do not tell me to respect or attempt to understand this man. To think you would all respect him is a shame and a joke.
I'm not going to feed you, troll. Go cut off your foot and stick it in your mouth. I'm sure you're used to it being there figuratively, so you might as well do it literally.
Soldiers are meant to protect their people. In that regard, General Rommel may well be one of the only parts of the German military to not fail in the worst way.
He followed Hitler. He fought for Hitler won plenty of battles for him. It is not like he didnt know what hitlers intentions or what he was doing in germany. He and all these generals just decided what he was doing was wrong and tried to kill him when they were losing the war. They did this because they knew that hitler would not truce and that the allies were coming for hitler. They thought if they killed him they could save their own skin Rommel knew the war was over. Hitler gave rommel his position his army and rommel spat back into his face. I know what Hitler did was wrong but to turn your back on your leader simply because you were losing the war does not make you any better of a person as much as you guys like to think.
Is that a reason to praise him? There were plenty of good germans who died fighting in that war. I am sorry but when you fight and protect a man who is committing atrocities and you know about it then that blood is on your hands too. He stood by and accepted it he fought for the leaders who condoned it. He was no better than them the difference is he wasnt willing to go for the ship that he help set sail.
Yes, I think you are trolling. If you had ever been a soldier, you would know that you only have to follow lawful orders. A soldier is under no obligation to commit a crime that was ordered, and the Nuremberg Trials might ring a bell that soldiers can be tried for war crimes. The armed forces are made to serve and protect, not to mindlessly murder.
true what I said was a mistake. I will admit that after much consideration I will rebuke that claim but in the case of rommel he was a man who was looking out for his own skin he had no care for saving other people.
Yeah and he also fought battles for a maniac who committed mass genocide and enslaved most of europe.
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Rommel always said he was fighting for GERMANY not Hitler. He hated the man, why else would he have been part of a military coup? He was also extremely honourable. A worthy adversary. And lastly a BRILLIANT tactician.
The question I have is why if he was such a good guy did he just stand by quietly and allow hitler to do what he did. He knew about everything that was going on with the jews and with the polish and all the other groups but he did nothing. Not till the end of the war did he actually try to kill hitler. Even If he was fighting for Germany he was still fighting for Hitler. Germany was doing terrible things at the time due to their leaders and rommel never officially went against that. He probably extended the war by fighting for Germany. I do not doubt his genius but I fail to see how honorable he was when he turns his back on his leader near the end of the war when they are losing. Him and all the other general tried to kill hitler near the end because he was making stupid decisions and they thought they could come to peace after he was dead I am failing to see how that is honorable.
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You might as well condemn every single German soldier, citizen and even the ZONDER COMMANDOS whilst you're at it. You really must live in a fantasy world if you think that NO ONE knew what was going on FFS. Rommel cared about his COUNTRY not the little despots running it. You have to try and see why in THEIR minds BACK THEN why they did it, WHY they stood by. You cannot judge it by today's standards.
Back then most Countries to a point were anti semitic, even the US and the UK. The Third Reich just took the next step. It wasn't even Hitlers idea to kill them off, he wanted to ship them to Madagascar but couldn't and he even asked the US & the UK to take them on and they said no! It was HIMMLER who had the idea of concentration camps and gassing them.
He (Rommel) was HONOURABLE because he treated both his and the enemy FAIRLY! He battled with HONOUR. He attained great respect and love nit only from his own men, but the enemy as well. We (the UK) even had a funeral in his honour
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When he died.
He didn't publicly go against what Hitler and the Third Reich were doing because he loved his family and wanted to keep them safe! And what good would it have done to kill him so near the beginning? He'd have just been replaced by Himmler. And the cycle would continue.
Get a decent higher education history lesson please or at least watch few fucking documentaries.
You think you can just replace your top general with anybody you retard. Also im only condemning him because he turned around last minute near the end of the war. If he was so determined with trying to save his family why is it he endangered them near the end by trying to kill their leader? He did fight with honor but he through it away when he attempted to assassinate his own leader. Take a play from Genghis khan one of the greatest generals killed all the soldiers who betrayed his rival because he knew that their was no greater dishonor than turning on your leader. I have studied WW2 for the majority of my life and let me just say that in no way shape or form did any of the nazi generals who attempted to kill adolf wre thinking about the german people. They thought of themselves and they are cowards regardless. Its easy for us to justify it because we were fighting against them but trust me had it been any other country during this time and all of you would change your opinions.
Not sure if it matters much, bit Rommel was against killing Hitler as a means of tying up political ends. Also, insulting the person you're arguing with doesn't help your argument.
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Himmler was his second in command as he was the leader of the SS dumbass, it follows a CHAIN OF COMMAND! SO OBVIOUSLY NOT JUST ANYONE CAN REPLACE HIM!!!
He DIDN'T try to kill him HIMSELF. All he did was say that if the coup went through he'd be no trouble and he'd help them. You're acting as if he went to stab the bastard himself. Jesus. Hitler didn't care about his people AT ALL. He cut off their means of an exit and supplies during the siege of Berlin. He told soldiers to steal from his public to feed themselves. He said that they should be WILLING to die for him. The generals who tried to kill him DID care about their country, they were trying to SAVE it from ruin!
BTW congrats on making yourself sound like a neo nazi. Have a cookie.
Idc how I sound The pointlessness in this argument is that you cannot prove or tell how someone was from history. I believe hitler did care for his people. I believe though that he had a terrible way of doing it. He wanted the german aryan people to have everything to own the world. I dont believe that any of these people were good but I do not feel I am in a position to say wether or not they felt a way or that their actions were good. I will say though from my interpretation. Any man who plots to kill his leader is a coward. The allies created a hitler they created a WW2. You act as if germany and adolf are not associated. Hitler spoke for the german people he commanded them and they accepted it. You dont know that he was trying to save his country like Idk if he was saving himself. All I can see is that he acted without a spine to betray his own commander something that no soldier should ever do.
My country right or wrong.
If right, to remain so.
If wrong, to be set right.
Back then most Countries to a point were anti semitic, even the US and the UK. The Third Reich just took the next step. It wasn't even Hitlers idea to kill them off, he wanted to ship them to Madagascar but couldn't and he even asked the US & the UK to take them on and they said no! It was HIMMLER who had the idea of concentration camps and gassing them.
He (Rommel) was HONOURABLE because he treated both his and the enemy FAIRLY! He battled with HONOUR. He attained great respect and love nit only from his own men, but the enemy as well. We (the UK) even had a funeral in his honour
He didn't publicly go against what Hitler and the Third Reich were doing because he loved his family and wanted to keep them safe! And what good would it have done to kill him so near the beginning? He'd have just been replaced by Himmler. And the cycle would continue.
Get a decent higher education history lesson please or at least watch few fucking documentaries.
He DIDN'T try to kill him HIMSELF. All he did was say that if the coup went through he'd be no trouble and he'd help them. You're acting as if he went to stab the bastard himself. Jesus. Hitler didn't care about his people AT ALL. He cut off their means of an exit and supplies during the siege of Berlin. He told soldiers to steal from his public to feed themselves. He said that they should be WILLING to die for him. The generals who tried to kill him DID care about their country, they were trying to SAVE it from ruin!
BTW congrats on making yourself sound like a neo nazi. Have a cookie.