Those poor people

Sure they do they were taught to memories it from a book but ask them to come up with a original thought or be witty they are screwed all they can do is look for spelling/grammar errors. Sure if I need a report on Shakespeare I want a college grad to do it but if my car breaks down and all I got is a roll of duck tape some baling wire and pliers ill take the redneck's any day he knows how to think not just repeat what he was taught to memorize.

Some SJW college students get their panties in a bunch over someone misgendering them, just like some rednecks get their panties in a bunch over a mention of equality of genders, races, or sexualities. It's not all black and white. It's not all us vs them. It's not all with me or against me. There are idiots in the very corners of the opposing sides but most people are in the middle, facepalming whenever someone makes a stupid excuse to defend their "team", like your attempt at excusing uneducated people because of "duck tape".

Unorigional accuracy > origional idiocy.

IM not excusing the redneck's for not being educated. IM saying they are out right better then college drones that can't think for them selves. IM saying if there wasn't warnings to not look at the eclipse there would be a bunch of college kids in the hospital not redneck's.college doesn't mean educated I know mechanic that will rip apart a diesel engine with no manual and fix it and put it back together and they don't even have a high school diploma. IM not saying this is a good thing IM saying this country is that messed up with education. Any way this started out as a joke but hay if you all believe your better then some one else then more power to ya and if you don't think that's what your doing change the last line from people in south Carolina to black people and see if its still funny and you feel OK with it.

Well IM wondering why you capitalized every im. You must be from SC to be this triggered by a joke. Are you also a college dropout? Because if you would actually get off the internet for once youd know that feminanzis make up less than 1% of people in college. Just because they voice themselves more doesnt mean they are more. Believe me a lot more racists and homophobes exist than feminazis. And idk why its a crime to think youre better than a racist. The fact that you took this so personally is hilarious and almost sad

Ignoring all the other drama, your founding argument is that rednecks are better because they'll blind themselves looking at the sun rather than listen to the advice of others like a stupid college kid?

So my first line is They're redneck's they figure out things for them self so did you not read it or are you trying to make up shit I said? As for germansatan what the hell are you even talking about we are talking about redneck's and college educated not race or homophobia and no one even mentioned feminanzis. So do me a favor germansatan if you see a post of mine in the future don't bother to comment your to dumb for me to even bother with and I wont reply to you.The level of stupidity is just to high I can't take it so im clicking unfollow on this post.

Nope sorry im bring you back
I gotta know to what your stupidity limit is
@rachee
Your levels of stupidity are amazing really. Do you even know the meaning of the words you stated. Redneck are known for being racist and homophobic you ignorant dumbass. Feminazis are the ones who cry for safe space and get mad when theyre misgendered. You manage to be so stupid whilst trying to call me stupid

Here's the thing, friendo. This isn't the first time an eclipse has happened. Humanity already has the experience that if you look at it without eclipse shades, your eyes are gonna get fucked up. The Sun has been up there for a pretty long time. It makes a lot more sense to read advice and follow it than "figure it out for yourself" all anew, blinding a person or two in the process. That's why we write shit down, because someone has already figured it out before us and it would be fruitless and senseless to do it all over because we'd just reach the same conclusions.
Also, I'm gonna be an asshole now because your English skills bother me.
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Who were you referring to

Rachee
Sorry for not specifying it, I thought you'd figure it out by the content of my arguments since we both disagreed with rachee.
Also you didn't have any mistakes in your comments, I think.

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Hi. I'm going to jump on this wild ride of a post because for some reason the statement "Redneck are known for being racist and homophobic" is getting to me a little. I'm not even denying it. I don't see how I reasonably could. But a couple of years ago I was working in the kitchen of a ranch that runs camps for kids from difficult backgrounds every summer, and one of the counsellors walked in, threw some ice in a plastic baggie, and quipped about it being a 'redneck ice pack' on his way out. My friend on the kitchen staff is Chinese, and 'redneck' was a new word to her. She asked me to explain it. I fumbled around before first explaining the literal meaning - people who work in the fields get sunburns on their necks a lot. Then I said something about them generally being considered uneducated, and something else that I can't remember but probably wasn't flattering. The cook disagreed with my description - I remember the feelings more than the words, and I got the idea that she (1/2)

took pride in being a redneck. To her it meant something different. I wish I could define it. And though rachee was consistently rude, I think the point about rednecks having practical, valuable skills is probably pretty valid. I can't remember where I was going with this. Probably nowhere; just the cook is someone I respect. And that moment with her reminded me of the dangers of painting a whole group with the same brush - even when it's easy and socially acceptable. Plus I read a post about how Trump won the election - in part, it said, by appealing to the "only group of people it is still acceptable [in cultural opinion] to make fun of" - that is, the back country, rural people. It creates a kind of "us vs. them" culture between city people and country people. Okay. End rant. Especially because ewqua already said it's not a black and white, us vs them kind of thing. I realize I'm preaching to the choir in a way. So. Thanks for listening. G'night! (2/2)

I think you make a very good point, guest. It's not wrong to be proud of things a group you associate yourself with has accomplished. But at the same time acknowledging that the same group has bad seeds in it should be common sense. For example, there are some SJWs who say that all white people now should be punished for American slavery which was abolished centuries ago. I disagree because the people now had nothing to do with slavery at all, there should be no collective guilt. But people should acknowledge that what happened was bad. At the same time though, there's nothing wrong with being proud of the many inventors and geniuses that have been part of the same group. Personally, I'm an individualist, I don't really care about group association and I usually judge people by their individual characteristics. But if you do want to associate with a group, you should be objective and judge both the good things and the bad things the group has done. (1/2)

Just like the chef you spoke about, she's proud of the practical nature of the "rednecks" and there's nothing wrong with that. You seem to have a high opinion of her, she seems like a reasonable person, so I'm guessing that if she was asked about some rednecks being racist, sexist, homophobic etc., she would admit it and wouldn't try to wriggle out of it by making excuses. That is a healthy approach and one I fully support. However, what rachee has demonstrated in this thread is an entirely different approach. He/she a) generalized both groups, aka rednecks good and practical, college kids bad and dumb, b) tried to make excuses for the bad seeds instead of facing the fact that they exist. (2/2)

Hi, thanks for replying! I don't have fun conversations like this nearly often enough in the summer. I agree that white people shouldn't take on a backbreaking burden of guilt for something that we had no control over. And the fact is, most people aren't asking us to. What's being asked of us is that we rectify the situation. (But a lot of white people I know, particularly the men in my family, don't get that, and will get super offended during conversations about race because they think you're telling them to feel guilty.) I view it as being kind of similar to if I had a child, and that child broke my neighbour's fine china, or whatever. I'll feel guilty, but not extremely so, because with small children unfortunate accidents happen. And the kid can't do anything about the china - but it's not fair to leave the neighbour with paying the cost for that, so it is my responsibility to rectify the situation. And if it had priceless monetary or emotional value, then I still do what I can1/2

I agree about the importance of seeing both the good and bad in your own group, too. I'll add that I see tremendous value in helping other groups to do that - maybe in the case of rednecks, that would mean making effort to not mock or belittle them; the dominant culture does that, so I imagine they probably start off on the defensive, and it would be best for us... non-rednecks... to help them lower their guards so we could have productive conversation. (2/2)

Haha no probs, I enjoy debating opinions too. The analogy with the child is a good one imo, I myself one reasoned with a similar one but put a deceased parent instead of child, because the parent is dead but they still owed your neighbor money or something and you can't simply wriggle out of it, but at the same time you can't feel guilty because it's not your fault. People didn't get it though.
You make a good point about a lot of people mocking rednecks, I see it a lot on the internet but honestly I'm not from the US and people in my country don't really have a "redneck culture". Maybe some village people are proud of being village people because they think city folk are pampered and prissy, but that's about it. We had no North vs South thing so people don't really remind themselves of the history on either side, since there are no sides to take. (1/2)

Bottom line is, we shouldn't group all rednecks in with the racists and sexists as those are a minority in the group. A very loud minority, but a minority nonetheless. At the same time though we shouldn't try to excuse their racism/sexism/homophobia/etc. with "Eh they're rednecks, that's just how they are." because it paints all rednecks in a bad light AND is a bad excuse for someone's shitty behaviour.
This reminds me of the "Boys will be boys." saying that so many people like to use to excuse bad behaviour of their sons. Firstly, it groups the shitty misbehaving boys with all other boys/men even though the vast majority of people in general are well behaved, secondly it's a bad excuse for bad behaviour and the person who's misbehaving will never learn a lesson if you keep excusing them like that. (2/2)

Yeah, I see a lot more of it on the internet than in real life too - although irl it does happen. I'm not from the US either, though, and though my province has rednecks (we probably have the most in Canada), we don't have the kind of historical division the US does. It's more of a cultural contrast, which makes some people with less progressive/leftist values feel ignored and unvalued as a group. And usually no one takes time to see the other side of things, because every person is so sure that he or she is on the moral side of the argument, it's almost like they think trying to see the opposite side would be immoral, would make their souls dirty or something.
And yeah, many groups get misrepresented by a vocal minority. I'm a Christian, and one thing that stuns me is that some other Christians are completely unaware of the Westboro Baptist Church. So these Christian friends feel like they're getting picked on for their religion, but they don't realize what kind of scum they're(1/2)

being associated with. If they did, there would probably be a lot more understanding all around. It's so important to know the context in which your words are being heard. If I referred to a fellow Christian as a sinner, they'd just say "Yep, I am. And God loves me anyway." But if I said the same of a non-Christian, they'd likely think I was implying my own moral superiority, which wouldn't be the case at all. So things need to be said differently in different contexts. Everyone has to have consideration for each other.
Yes. I've always riled at statements like that. Just because something is "normal" doesn't mean that it is good, or that it should stay the way it is and be excused. I remember a few years ago watching a music video that struck me as being incredibly sexist, objectifying women sexually, and I said something about not liking that. The response I got implied that I was overreacting to a very minor thing... and it was minor, but also part of a bigger cultural offence.

Yeah, I hate sexualization too. Not because it's one sided sexism, after all men objectify women but also women objectify themselves and men get objectified too, however I think that it's a fairly recent trend to substitute good art with naked people. I see it in music videos, movies, video games... and it just annoys me so much, because basically the producers/developers were in the process of making the product and they said "Well, we could put something interesting, inspiring or emotional in this... but putting some naked people will save us effort and bring us the same attention and profits, so why bother?" Which is just a completely loathsome and disgusting attitude in my opinion. And the worst of all, it works. They wouldn't do it if it didn't. These producers know that the majority of people will still gulp it down and pay lots of money for it. Just like remakes, microtransactions, and similar crappy, unimaginative, greedy practices, it brings these industries lower and lower.