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guest
· 6 years ago
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Im pretty sure the answer is actually 0 holes. Its just a long plastic ring.
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the_average_gatsby
· 6 years ago
This is the correct answer
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deleted
· 6 years ago
I like the soda, so I put a ring on it.
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guest_
· 6 years ago
not debating the conclusion per se, but the logic. If a straw is a long plastic ring.... how many holes does a ring have? It has 1. A hole is defined as a hollow space in a sold body or surface. The ring is a solid shape of metal, your finger goes into the hole formed at the center, this is true wether the "ring" forms a complete loop or has an incomplete loop as the hollow space exists within it, and the unmet sides of the ring do meet, they simply continue on another plane back to themselves. It cannot be debated otherwise as your finger can only go into the empty space in the object, and the intent of a ring is to leave empty space at its center. So wether the answer is correct or not, the logic is open to rebuff, if the position is intended to be defended or justified I would seek another example.
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the_average_gatsby
· 6 years ago
Very valid point, I didn't think about it like that
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guest_
· 6 years ago
Hopefully I didn't come off as trying to invalidate your stance, or trying to be a smarty pants. I figured if the discussion came up in the future I'd point them out in a neutral and no stakes setting so that you could prepare and refine the idea as you saw fit (or not.) I think the theory has merit for discussion. One I'm fond of is the box (cube). Is it 6 sides? 12, counting the reverse? is it 2, an inside and an outside, or is it some other? It's somewhat nonsensical but still can be fun and like this illustrates context and perspective effecting answers that are all technically correct.
deleted
· 6 years ago
A straw is basically a stretched torus so it has one hole
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guest_
· 6 years ago
I'm not questioning the answer but the logic. Topographically we can't turn our straw into a torus, we break the rules. it must be able to maintain the large scale features of a torus without stretching or squishing, which a physically real straw cannot do. In geometry our torus must follow a specific set of rules for its properties. A cylinder is not a torus. Geometrically we could turn the straw into a torus, but then it wouldn't function as a straw and thus the proof doesn't apply to the question. A rectangle is basically a flattened cylinder, and a cylinder is basically a broken torus, but a rectangle by itself is not either of the others despite being relatable. To apply the definition of a form we must follow the rules of a form, which we do not here. A human is primate but the distinction of human is important, you'd likely plan a different trip cross country with a Pan troglodytes than with a homo sapien and will find that in practice the two are distinct.
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deleted
· 6 years ago
Yeah probably should have described it as a cylinder with a hole straight through it, it made sense in my head but i now realise it is a dodgy description now i think about it
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guest_
· 6 years ago
No worries. I'm not trying to be an ass or come off as trying to be a know it all, just if the subject came up for debate I wanted to present those thoughts to prepare a rebuttal, or a new supporting claim to strengthen your position- but not from a position of attack upon your views. A hollow cylinder seems a fair description. The crux of the whole thing really is in how we define the straw itself.
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10000godisnji_rajh
· 6 years ago
Also.... you cannot dig half a hole
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jd1984
· 6 years ago
A straw is a hole, because it drains your cup.
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pythonis
· 6 years ago
its one hole. if you take an object and drill right through it, its only one hole, doesn't matter what end you look at it from, its still the same hole. if a straw had two holes you'd have a pretty crappy straw