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granlobomalo
· 6 years ago
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I’ve had a few interviews in the past where people asked me to tell them a clean joke. I usually say: ‘An atheist, a vegan, and a CrossFitter walk into a bar. And the only reason I know is because they told everyone in the first two minutes.’ Usually gets enough of a chuckle to move on to question two in good spirits.
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infosubstance
· 6 years ago
"but what if they are both right?" then keep that to yourself and dont hate on people for their beliefs, if you dont want hate for what you believe dont hate on others for what they believe
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guest
· 6 years ago
Atheists see religious folk in much the same way "round earthers" see "flat earthers". But at some point atheists, you need to give it a rest. Agree that some people wont see "your" logic, because "their " logic is vital to their emotional well-being. We all believe exactly what we want to believe and feel we need to believe, irrespective of the "logic" behind it.
gracierose
· 6 years ago
i agree with you, but I just wanted to clarify, I am a religious person, and it is NOT for my emotional well being. I looked for evidence on both sides, really got into it, decided I personally believe in the logic of a god more than the logic of evolution and the Big Bang and such. If something were concrete and able to sway me I'd reconsider but as of right now that's just what I decide makes more sense to me. Trust me. I do not generally find the idea of heaven comforting. Too many questions. I prefer to die and it be over. But that's not what I believe.
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golden_pig
· 6 years ago
atheist here, I respect other people's opinions; we were all grown up differently. In fact, I like to have (respectful) discussions on the topic, maybe learn a thing or two about their POV.
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tony007
· 6 years ago
I don't care what others think, all I say is that if God exists, he is not perfect, if God is perfect, he can't exist.
guest_
· 6 years ago
An interesting idea. Of course- one must question: what is “perfect”? I’m fairly sure that many can’t define it absolutely, and those who believe they could would likely give different answers. What is perfect for the spider is hell for the fly no? So from who’s perspective are we to judge this perfection, and how could we declare a thing perfect unless we had omnipotence to compare it to all other things? If such an imnipotent being existed that could declare perfection or absence of- or set the “universal perspective,” that being would in effect be a god. So the basic proposition requires at the least a “god like being” to even be credible- which already weights the answer towards existence of god(s), and from there the question of perfection becomes perspective or lack there of. Who but an omnipotent being would be capable of judging perfection in a non subjective sense?
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llmollj
· 6 years ago
yeah, cuz nobody gives a shit. just live your life without being an asshole.
funkmasterrex
· 6 years ago
Nonsensical argument for so many reasons... but ok. You need to eat and unless you can supplement your diet locally or pay more in fuel to have food shipped you. This would ironically feed more carnivores(the people shipping you your shit)... on a cargo ship.... from a deforested place farmed by slave wages. That's before you leave California. If you live in the US, half the shit you get, and WAY over half if you are vegan, is grown in..... California.
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funkmasterrex
· 6 years ago
Anyway... my point was... you can live a physical life without god, can't live one without food.
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jade
· 6 years ago
https://i.imgur.com/xerZm4q.jpg
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funkmasterrex
· 6 years ago
well no shit, that's why a guy puts out 100 million sperm with each jizz.
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funkmasterrex
· 6 years ago
Also... apparently you don't know what "nonsensical" means :D zoooooom
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guest
· 6 years ago
What's it like being 12 and edgy.
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guest_
· 6 years ago
I hate to argue, but the example wasn’t meant as a literal 1/1 comparison nor as a logistical and economic discussion. It was comparing the philosophical reasoning behind the two things. One can live without religion, but one can also live without following vegan practices (which include not just food but other items) if we are being literal. The point was that to have the freedom to live as we choose as much as practical, we must protect the freedom of others we may disagree with. Otherwise it is a system where the only real “freedom” is to go with a majority or suffer consequences. The key idea is that where there is a disagreement like this, 2+ groups all think they have the best way. None would want to be forced to live by the others ways, so why would they force others to live their way? Where practical, allowing each to follow their compass when not mutually exclusive is a benchmark of freedom.
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