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dr_richard_ew
· 6 years ago
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famousone
· 6 years ago
I get the sentiment, but it wouldn't do to forget history
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ithaca
· 6 years ago
People don't need to remove statues to forget history. Statues are used to celebrate a figure.Books, documentaries, general media is enough for it. They can build memorials to remember a dark time.
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chad_bullet
· 6 years ago
Waaait !!?
shurikkaru
· 6 years ago
Removing the statues is the worst thing for me, they are erected for a reason and to cover them up or remove them is to pretend the history doesn’t exist
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i_
· 6 years ago
Yeah, I was a bit skeezy on the whole Charlottesville/Confederate statue issue. I understand not wanting to glorify bad things but we need to recognize that they happened. The best solution would be to provide unbiased education on what what happened while leaving everything up. Also, regardless of the import of the statues they still are a work of craftsmanship.
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silvermyth
· 6 years ago
The Confederate stuff wasn’t put there after the war, though. A museum is a good place.
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funkmasterrex
· 6 years ago
Just move them to a museum, 100%. I agree the statues shouldn't be destroyed, but some also shouldn't be kept on public land.
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shurikkaru
· 6 years ago
They should all be kept public, that’s the point of them, moving them to a museum is just covering up a scar, it just hiding it, why should we be hiding history?
silvermyth
· 6 years ago
Statues of communist leaders were put up in Eastern Europe/ Western Asia but taken down after. The statues of confederate leaders weren't erected to honor the dead, but put up at the time of Jim Crow laws with the intent to intimidate. Seeing a statue commemorating people who hurt your ancestors is not any fun. Moving them to a museum where they can be viewed with historical context and by consent of those entering is much better.
shurikkaru
· 6 years ago
The reasoning behind the statues being erected is debatable, historians disagree on the context all the time, moving the statues and hiding the shame is censoring history; they were put there for a reason, hiding them in museums takes away the opportunity to move forward and learn, yes we learn from museums but do you know how many people actually go to them? Significantly less than those who see them in the open, where they belong. Your ancestors are your ancestors, We are here and now, we need to stop living in the past, and start appreciating and learning from it, even the poor parts we’d rather forget.
silvermyth
· 6 years ago
Would you appreciate a Hitler statue in front of your school
shurikkaru
· 6 years ago
no I wouldn’t, hitler was a bad man who caused the death of millions of people, but the statue would have been erected for a reason, and if that blemish was out there, then there should be information readily available at its location as to why it’s a blemish, and to be presented as a learning opportunity. Side note, you can’t invoke Hitler in this scenario, he is of the greatest evil, while the figures displayed in the south, though controversial, were and still are hero’s to many, the south fought for what they believed in, and regardless of the contributing factors, the only reason we demonize them is because they lost the war, and as we all know history is written by the victors. If the population defaces them so be it, but we should not be removing them, and I will not budge on that.
silvermyth
· 6 years ago
Confederate leaders advocated for the continued suffering of many. Hitler was also a hero to some.
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xvarnah
· 6 years ago
City in British Columbia removed a statue of Canada's first prime minister a little while ago
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funkmasterrex
· 6 years ago
The irony.
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chad_bullet
· 6 years ago
Yes exactly why I posted waait... Arguably, Vader was also a communist, certainly a dictator....
funkmasterrex
· 6 years ago
....stormtroopers were literary sheep in the script. <_< Just saying.
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i_
· 6 years ago
The empire was definitely not communist. I don't know what they would be considered but communism is definitely not it.
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funkmasterrex
· 6 years ago
The empire is a corrupted communist state. It's the idea of communism perverted... like what has happened every single time it has been attempted.
shurikkaru
· 6 years ago
That’s not an argument, how is it corrupt communism? If anything it’s facist
funkmasterrex
· 6 years ago
Yeah.... show me one successful communist government that hasn't collapsed into fascism. There is a reason that although they are at opposite ends on any linear scale, but right next to each other on any horseshoe or triangle one. I prefer the triangle... a pyramid actually.
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