Yes but bitching about something and criticizing something are two different things.
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bitching is a form of criticism but it is often insulting or just generally nasty also what people label as bitching may be genuine criticism but they just don't like their favourite band being criticised
Video games have a much higher bar to hit before their merits become a opinion thing rather than objective quality thing. With music this bar is extraordinarily low comparatively to basically any other product that exists because of what it is.
How “good” you judge is eithet subjective. If I enjoy Fortnite more than RDR2 then it’s a better game to me. Goat Simulator was extremely popular because of / in spite of its technical problems. Video games take a lot longer to make and are much more complex than music generally.
Then as usual you failed to state your opinion clearly. You seem to say that video games can be judged objectively which is why I countered that claim with examples. Were you making a different point? If not, what objective metric would you apply?
My comment is very simple. It states that the point at which judging video games objectively becomes impossible is much higher than the point at which judging music objectively becomes impossible. It then proceeds to state that the point at which judging music objectively becomes impossible is extraordinarily low when compared to any other product because of what music is.
You are just unable to understand a simple statement as per usual
With games the objective metric is in multiple buckets. If a game fills any one major bucket (example being game mechanics or graphics) it reaches the point of being impossible to judge objectively.
with music the objective metric is effectively down to a single much smaller bucket of "does this use any universally bad sounds or in the case of vocals does the singer/s voice/s universally bad"
before you go and say anything about it there are objectively bad sounds and objectively bad voices both of which cause cause for an objectively bad music.
And here is the crux of our disagreement. Good and bad are completely subjective. Entertainment can only be objectively, though relatively, measured by revenue which is the indication of popularity.
You are just unable to understand a simple statement as per usual
If there is a bar, as you state, then tell me upon what objective metric it is measured.
with music the objective metric is effectively down to a single much smaller bucket of "does this use any universally bad sounds or in the case of vocals does the singer/s voice/s universally bad"
before you go and say anything about it there are objectively bad sounds and objectively bad voices both of which cause cause for an objectively bad music.