I mean, we didn't know shit about the emperor when ROTJ was first released. Last Jedi wasn't perfect but some of the criticisms people have for it are dumb
basically all we knew about the emperor was that he was the creepy dude with fucked up skin that appeared occasionally and was important and was powerful and had space magic.
Thank you....
So many of the complaints people have about TFA/TLJ characters is just because there hasn't been decades of expanded content to give them backstories...
Seriously, it's a much better movie than TFA. All that outrage is just an echo-chamber of pissed off incels.
My issue with TFA is the same problem I have with Jurassic World (after first seeing the park, that part was awesome)... it's just a highlight reel of nostalgia.
Hey, remember episode 4? That sure was a great movie... What if we made it again, but louder?
Now don't get wrong, I enjoy every single star wars movie (including the prequels, and Solo....) But in my opinion, TFA is one of the worst ones, and TLJ is one of the best.
A lot of the criticism with TLJ is fair, the casino side bit, I'd say Luke was kind of wasted a bit, not saying he had to burst in and solve everyone's problems in an 80s style montage, but it'd be nice to see him do a bit more
I actually liked the casino part. Well, sort of. I think it was intentional how "prequel-ey" it was. Here's this planet/city that is largely removed from this conflict thats been going on for the past 50 years, and has just profited from it. It makes sense to me then that it would be all garish and shiny, just like everywhere was before the clone wars.
I agree that it would be cool to see Luke being all badass, but I don't think that's really his character. The most badass thing Luke ever did wasn't fighting Vader, it was throwing his lightsaber away in front of the emperor.
With all that said though, I have no problem with people who can rationally argue that they didn't like TLJ, but I can't stand the "I don't want women in muh star wars"
TLJ was the worst Star Wars movie ever. Not because of muh feminism or females or whatever bullcrap, it had no cohesive plot, too many plotholes, faulty in-universe logic, stupid characters all around, Luke was wasted, not a single setup from TFA was used but rather shot down and just "nah lol whatever". And the Emperor argument to Snoke is stupid. When the first Star Wars came out it was new, we knew nothing, it was part of a mystery. Now however we know a lot! For example we know about the rule of two. We know Sidious was one of the most powerful sith lords in a long time and that he had no other apprentice besides Darth Vader before his death. I mean he tried to win Luke over because he knew he would be more powerful than Vader and the entry test was basically "kill your father so that we won't be more than two". And if you bring up the inquisitors, they're not sith. They're assassins with some knowledge of the dark side. It's like calling a militia infantryman a full fledged knight
So it's kind of a big deal when we know there was no major sith besides Sidious at the time of his death. So it makes sense that we would get to know who Snoke is, where he came from, how he became so strong with the force and why he is the leader of the first order. Another flaw with the Emperor argument is that we did get to know who he was. Even though it took a while we git the backstory. Now there's no excuse because Star Wars is bo longer in its infancy, it has a huge lore, even though a lot is no longer canon, there's still a lot. There's too much lore to just throw in a new Sith Lord or other dark side user and not get an awesome explanation about where he came from and how he stayed hidden.
dark side users never get explanations for their existence when they are introduced. Nothing in current canon has been like that. Saying "oh we have all this lore that's non-canon they should just use that" is retarded. People loved grievous and he was a super unknown that didn't get anything new until the cartoon. The cartoon did the exact same thing with every single dark side user and star wars was no less out of its infancy then than it was now. Hell star wars was no less out of its infancy when phantom came out of maul was basically the only part that most people liked out of the prequels.
I wasn't talking about non-canon. Rule of two and all that shit is still canon. So yes, they should use the lore. And I'm not saying they should've told everyone immediately who he is I don't mind the mysterious sith. BUT to just kill him off like "eh he wasn't that important" is just such a slap in the face. To be portraied as a strong froce user similar to that of sidious and not even get a proper introduction. Keep him mysterious, sure, but then don't make him seem so unimportant and weak.
He may not be a traditional sith, but he got force powers. Dark side force powers. Force powers were rare during and after the galactic empire and especially dark side force powers. He's a dick but not a weak dick that should've been killed off like a pleb.
So many of the complaints people have about TFA/TLJ characters is just because there hasn't been decades of expanded content to give them backstories...
My issue with TFA is the same problem I have with Jurassic World (after first seeing the park, that part was awesome)... it's just a highlight reel of nostalgia.
Now don't get wrong, I enjoy every single star wars movie (including the prequels, and Solo....) But in my opinion, TFA is one of the worst ones, and TLJ is one of the best.
I agree that it would be cool to see Luke being all badass, but I don't think that's really his character. The most badass thing Luke ever did wasn't fighting Vader, it was throwing his lightsaber away in front of the emperor.
With all that said though, I have no problem with people who can rationally argue that they didn't like TLJ, but I can't stand the "I don't want women in muh star wars"