I didn't need to be attacked on such a personal level so early in the morning
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Eh, dw about it. The key to success is for people to believe you know more than you do. After that you can speak as an authority and people will just listen to you and do what you tell them to. It's addictive once you get a taste for it. You start trying to figure out how much wild shit you can say, and people will just blindly obey.
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It's fun :)
Haha I'm not truly bothered. Although I have a very strong distaste for telling outright lies to people most of the time, so I would not do well at convincing people of wild and crazy things I know nothing about
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That reminded me of a comedian talking about going to Australia and them having no idea about Canada and just believing anything he'd say so he keeps telling them more and more outlandish things and they keep believing it
Holy jeebus.. you're like my doppelganger. That is one of the biggest beefs I have with my parents. The reason I care so little what people think, the reason I'm so direct and honest with friends and family, is specifically because my parents forced me to lie to them for years - and it made me feel disgusting. I hated it, but as a kid, my dad was such a nazi, I had to lie about things because I was afraid of getting in trouble. As an adult, I've told them, multiple times how they made me sick of my own behaviour.. and it still bothers me to date.
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Professionally, I don't know my customers, I dont really 'care' about them, they're not in 'my hemisphere' (which is just how I put it) - so it doesn't bother me. Part of the fun is just how close I can get to them in a very short period of time. If you're good, you can get people to trust you to a limited extent, and then they'll walk into gunfire for you. Seriously, I don't need to become an authority on their love lives, or...
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give them advice about their kids. But there is something incredibly exhilarating about being able to make someone trust you in a very short period of time, and then controlling certain aspects of their behavior; specifically whether they trust me, and buy from me, or not. Once you master that, you start playing games and testing how far you can push the boundaries, just to see how good you are. It's incredibly manipulative, and it is surprisingly addictive..
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That's why I have a face for my hemisphere and a face for the world. The world doesnt care about me, so I care very little about it. I'm comfortable playing people, because people wouldn't hesitate to play me. But that's 'for the rest of the world'. I don't want that kind of dishonesty in my personal relationships. It cheapens and invalidates them, and that kind of behaviour is damaging to oneself personally if you keep at it for too long. Instead I'm brutally honest, and people shout at me for it every day, esp on here.
Haha well I mean I still try and spare peoples' feelings so I think in that way we might be a bit different. I tend to be fairly quiet with most people whereas I feel like you have no problem steamrolling over someone. I tend to just interact with a very select few people and I honestly rarely miss people I've left behind or such
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Ugh I can only imagine. that sounds truly awful. I bite my tongue a lot but it's usually my choice. Having someone deliberately forcing you to lie is something else entirely.
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Yes haha, my dad is actually a salesman and he is remarkably good at getting people to like him in very short order. Which is a trait he did not pass on to me at all x) he doesn't really play games though, he just does followthrough. It makes for some remarkably loyal customers
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People need stronger feelings. I know this is a constant thing with me, but for the love of god, people really genuinely need stronger feelings. Everyone is such a little bitch, all the time. You can't run a civilization this way. It wont work. So no, I dont mind steamrolling people. I do, basically daily. But I'm a pretty quiet guy otherwise. I interact only with those I already know and like, and my standards are high. I do miss people I left behind though. I hate losing good friends, they're hard to come by in the first place.
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I never bite my tongue, and I hate lying period. I dont care what another person knows or doesnt I, in myself dont want to feel stained by lying. Professionally it's different.
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Uh oh, I bet you have a very poor opinion of salespeople. It's not a trait btw, it's a skill, and you can learn it if you want to. Whether you want to or not is another story. I dont play games either. I like controlling my target, but that doesn't imply cheating them.
Haha they probably do need thicker skin, though I'm not sure I'm one to talk. I can get defensive/sensitive about things and occasionally hold a grudge.
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I agree that it's hard to find people you want to keep in your life. And I'm a very quiet and antisocial person as well. I can literally only think of a handful of people I've actively wanted to keep in my life and that have been in it for more than a few years. But I'm happy that way. I do miss some of them but for the most part I'm okay letting people drift in and out of the periphery
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I don't have a poor opinion of sales people at all haha. My dad has helped me have a very high opinion of the ones that act with integrity. The ones that don't I can still appreciate they're good at their craft, I just dislike they feel the need to swindle people along the way.
The dishonesty thing is honestly part of why I couldn't be a salesman-- I cannot sell a product or brand I don't know or believe. I can talk to them about it, try and answer questions, but if they ask me what I think or prefer etc it's all over. Some people can pull that off quite well- and I think in some ways that is not a bad thing- but I'm always just there going ".... No, that's not what I REALLY think, I think this is garbage, sorry..."
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Everyone has their own way of going about it, and it sounds like you try and do your job to the best of your ability using the tools in your arsenal
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It's fun :)
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That reminded me of a comedian talking about going to Australia and them having no idea about Canada and just believing anything he'd say so he keeps telling them more and more outlandish things and they keep believing it
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Professionally, I don't know my customers, I dont really 'care' about them, they're not in 'my hemisphere' (which is just how I put it) - so it doesn't bother me. Part of the fun is just how close I can get to them in a very short period of time. If you're good, you can get people to trust you to a limited extent, and then they'll walk into gunfire for you. Seriously, I don't need to become an authority on their love lives, or...
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That's why I have a face for my hemisphere and a face for the world. The world doesnt care about me, so I care very little about it. I'm comfortable playing people, because people wouldn't hesitate to play me. But that's 'for the rest of the world'. I don't want that kind of dishonesty in my personal relationships. It cheapens and invalidates them, and that kind of behaviour is damaging to oneself personally if you keep at it for too long. Instead I'm brutally honest, and people shout at me for it every day, esp on here.
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Ugh I can only imagine. that sounds truly awful. I bite my tongue a lot but it's usually my choice. Having someone deliberately forcing you to lie is something else entirely.
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Yes haha, my dad is actually a salesman and he is remarkably good at getting people to like him in very short order. Which is a trait he did not pass on to me at all x) he doesn't really play games though, he just does followthrough. It makes for some remarkably loyal customers
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I never bite my tongue, and I hate lying period. I dont care what another person knows or doesnt I, in myself dont want to feel stained by lying. Professionally it's different.
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Uh oh, I bet you have a very poor opinion of salespeople. It's not a trait btw, it's a skill, and you can learn it if you want to. Whether you want to or not is another story. I dont play games either. I like controlling my target, but that doesn't imply cheating them.
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I agree that it's hard to find people you want to keep in your life. And I'm a very quiet and antisocial person as well. I can literally only think of a handful of people I've actively wanted to keep in my life and that have been in it for more than a few years. But I'm happy that way. I do miss some of them but for the most part I'm okay letting people drift in and out of the periphery
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I don't have a poor opinion of sales people at all haha. My dad has helped me have a very high opinion of the ones that act with integrity. The ones that don't I can still appreciate they're good at their craft, I just dislike they feel the need to swindle people along the way.
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Everyone has their own way of going about it, and it sounds like you try and do your job to the best of your ability using the tools in your arsenal