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savage_demmigod
· 4 years ago
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When I'm at my boyfriend's house I leave the seat up when I'm done
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guest_
· 4 years ago
I put the seat down. It has nothing to do with sexism. It’s math. There is simply a greater mathematical probability that the optimum position for the toilet- where gender ratio of those using the bathroom is inline with the overall population, that “down” will be the more commonly used position. What’s more- almost 100% of people can complete their business sitting where as less than half can use a toilet standing at all- and will still likely need to sit sometimes. So on my book a need to have the seat down trumps a preference to have the seat up. What’s more-
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guest_
· 4 years ago
The elderly and injured are more likely to require use of the toilet sitting- with the only specific ailments that may make peeing sitting prohibitive being back or lower extremity injuries that restrict the ability to sit or get back up- compared to the myriad of conditions that could cause weakness or difficulty standing and balancing. Likewise- if one has an “emergency” and must evacuate their waste in haste- not only can either urine or feces be expelled more rapidly but even IF one had some need to have to toggle the seat before going (less likely with urine and a down seat than feces and an up seat-) the consequences of having the seat in the non ideal position are greater if defecation isn’t completed to specification than urine.
guest_
· 4 years ago
Missing the bowl is far easier and more sanitary and simpler to clean with urine than feces, and in a pinch it is generally better and easier to mitigate the urination of ones self than the defection of ones self. Small accidents are easily concealed with urine, and larger ones it is far easy and results more tenable to wash urine out in a bathroom sink if laundering or changing aren’t immediate options. You’ve a far greater chance at less expenditure of time to “cover up” an accident with urine than with feces.
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guest_
· 4 years ago
A person with a bowel disorder or general ailment that might cause spontaneous and violent defecation will benefit from a seat down regardless of their gender. A person with urinary incontinence from any factor can still use a seat down toilet with expedience via sitting even if that is not their preferred configuration, and if they exercise proper aim and skill, most people can also optionally urinate with a seat down while standing- the same can’t be said of sitting on a toilet with the seat up- at least not without great skill and physical exertion which may be beyond some people’s ability.
guest_
· 4 years ago
With pets and children it is best to have the seat down as well- and in general the recommendation is that one close the lid of the toilet when their business is concluded regardless. Closing the lid requires lowering the seat- thusly in bathrooms where this practice is followed the default is still seat down- contributing to an overall mathematical bias towards a “seat down” philosophy.
guest_
· 4 years ago
We mustn’t forget that the primary reason for lifting the seat when using the bathroom is to prevent urine from getting on the seat through poor control or through splash droplets on impact of a urine stream. The reason for this isn’t to benefit any one gender- both genders will eventually sit on the toilet to defecate unless you exclusively “air drop”, and piss stinks- so even if you live alone as a male you likely do not want to sit in piss- your own or not. So the oft taken stance that it is to a woman’s benefit is nonsense as a man still sits to defecate and so would need to ensure there was no urine on the seat and toggle seat configuration accordingly.
guest_
· 4 years ago
Tl:dr- everyone poops. It’s more common for the old and unhealthy to need to seat to pee. Recommendations hold to put the lid on a toilet down when flushing. Statistics generally favor “seat down” in some manner for the widest range of possible circumstances. I don’t see it as a gender issue. The numbers and logic seem clear. The risk may and consequences of common scenarios are more severe in “seat up” than “down.” Lastly- in most cases peeing standing is a matter of preference that one so equipped by nature may choose or not. Sitting is biologically prudent- essentially a necessity for those without the equipment to stand easily. Thus it comes down to want vs need and I’d say need wins out.
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mialinay
· 4 years ago
Thank you. I commented this (only in far shorter) EVERYTIME I SAW THIS DAMN REPOST. Got pretty tired of it though.
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guest_
· 4 years ago
Lol. I get tired of it too. I realize it’s a lot of words to discuss a toilet seat- but I figured that I’d present the logic for the consideration of those who might want to examine the position and not simply take my assertions at face value.
deleted
· 4 years ago
@guest_ explained what i think wonderfully but beyond that i think putting the seat down when you’re done should not be such a big deal. It’s a small curtesy like waiting for people to get out before you step into a train cart. I feel like some mgtow or femenazi realized that this little request mostly affects men and made it a gendered issue.
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funkmasterrex
· 4 years ago
seat always stays down in my house, just don't put the lid down plz.
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