Idk why this is downvoted. There isn't a single mass religion that exists today that didn't get where it is without a crusade or 6.
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Just because the history was dark doesn't mean the present has to be. Accept it and move on, you'll be okay
This wasn't an attack on Christianity? Or a commentary on them specifically either. I wasn't making a "Christian vs Muslim" argument. I was literally saying Christians (and every religion) did terrible things at points; acknowledging that is not a bad thing. It doesn't mean they are terrible absolutely, or that they are terrible now
the thing is, Christians view Jesus being crucified as a "good" thing (for lack of a better term). Jesus dying on the cross was a victory, so it is depicted as such, a lot like a country celebrating their independence.
Jesus is absolutely a prophet. He speaks on the behalf of God, performs and fulfills divine predictions, and was given direct esoteric knowledge of which it was his duty to pass to other people. Any disciple who talks on his behalf, on the other hand, is not a prophet since they do not have the direct knowledge/experience that Jesus had from God.
Even if Jesus claims he is the son of God (or God Himself), it doesn't erase the fact that he does all of the things I've listed. On the null hypothesis that he is a human character in history, he qualifies as a prophet.
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For a moment, I'll entertain the positive hypothesis that Jesus is not even just the son of God, but God himself. Then what we have is a divine figure who descended to earth, and not even refer to Himself in the first person. Instead, He repeatedly asserts that He is the Son of Man, and moreover that God (supposedly Himself) acts through Him. What we have is a divine being, supposedly timeless in His wisdom, who acts as if He weren't Himself. He *insists* on acting as if he were an avatar of Himself, and goes as far as to offer Himself to Himself on the crucifix. He would *still* be acting in precisely the ways I described, even if He were speaking for Himself. Since he acts in...
...the exact ways a prophet may (including departing knowledge of the future upon His apostles and disciples, one of the most famous perhaps being to predict His own execution). In classification alone, I could still call Jesus a prophet and I would not be wrong, since He acts no differently from the prophets preceding Him.
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Just because the history was dark doesn't mean the present has to be. Accept it and move on, you'll be okay
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For a moment, I'll entertain the positive hypothesis that Jesus is not even just the son of God, but God himself. Then what we have is a divine figure who descended to earth, and not even refer to Himself in the first person. Instead, He repeatedly asserts that He is the Son of Man, and moreover that God (supposedly Himself) acts through Him. What we have is a divine being, supposedly timeless in His wisdom, who acts as if He weren't Himself. He *insists* on acting as if he were an avatar of Himself, and goes as far as to offer Himself to Himself on the crucifix. He would *still* be acting in precisely the ways I described, even if He were speaking for Himself. Since he acts in...