Yeah. Lol. This one always bothers me. We don’t have to talk about wether pedophilia is a mental illness, we don’t have to compare it to other behaviors society sees, or has traditionally seen as abhorrent and come around to embrace. It’s real simple. Beyond some type of hopefully image morality and evolutionary instinct saying it’s wrong- every shred of scientific, biological, medical evidence we have, says very clearly, children cannot give informed consent for sex. Psychology isn’t a “hard science” but if also says that it’s harmful to children. There isn’t a moral or philosophical or other debate you can have on pedophile acceptance- get hard data to prove it isn’t harmful. Get the majority of the scientific and medical communities to accept the data, then maybe we could talk. It isn’t going to happen though- the data will not support the conclusion. Human minds and bodies aren’t fully developed until after adulthood.
All these other groups were once considered depraved/abhorrent/etc... Why wouldn't pedophiles see the normalization of these other groups as a sign that maybe this is their chance to be normalized too? There used to be all sorts of scientific studies on the evils of this or that life style. Then the left decided to throw out science and base everything on feelings. At this point, there's really not much of a logical argument left to prevent pedos from having their day in the sun.
That IS an oft mentioned point of pedophiles and pro pedophile acceptance folks. It’s also a good one to discuss our since yes, homosexuals and transsexuals and etc. have faced all sorts of moral and other challenges and labels- simply being a member of such a group would count as a mental l illness at one time or another. So then why can’t pedophiles have their day...? Well... I already explained why not. I’ll explain it again- break down style.
It isn’t about pedophiles. It’s about kids. Simple. It doesn’t matter to the sake of legality or social acceptance of behavior whether pedophilia is a mental disorder or not. IT IS HARMFUL TO CHILDREN WHO CANNOT GIVE INFORMED CONSENT. When a dude f his bf in the b hole- one dude may have a sore b hole. Someone may get an STD if they weren’t protected. They are two adults and those are risks any 2 adults are allowed to take. Not too many enforced laws or laws on the book saying a guy can’t f some lady in the b hole- and he already f’s her in the V hole likely- so that carries those same risks anyway.
But legally- a child is not able to consent. It is shown as harmful to children to involve them in sec. if pedos want to change that- show the world that it ISNT harmful. Produce studies. Ok. Once you have the medical community and mental health community agreeing there isn’t a harm in that- now convince America that the legal age for adulthood is 10+ years too high. Present the case to the American people that kids what, 6? 10? 12? Are old enough to make their own adult decisions and live in an adult world of adult consequences and responsibilities.
Do those things- and MAYBE there is now a discussion to be had on the matter. Right now, we can leave the morality out of it. We can leave the comparisons to adults having sex with adults out of it. Until society is willing to agree that children can and should be legally considered adults- there’s no discussion. What grounds would one have to suggest that you could engage a child sexually as you would am adult, in a world where minors are legally considered apart and less capable than adults? There isn’t an argument to overcome that UNLESS you prove sex isn’t detrimental to children at all.
And THOSE are the MAJOR DIFFERENCES between the arguments and considerations on a non biased non moral ground. 1. Harm 2. Ability to make a decision. Under our current understanding of science, medicine, and society- a homosexual does not harm themselves or another adult in any non superficial way that is different from heterosexual intercourse, and has the same ability to make an informed choice on sexual acts as a non homosexual.
IT IS NOT ABOUT THE PERSON OR THE PREFERENCE IN OBJECTIVE LEGAL DETERMINATION. It is about the endangering and Harmon of others, and the ability to consent. By default- pedophilia endangers or harms others. By default, the subjects of pedophilia cannot consent.
You can watch 18yo girls with “young faces” and “underdeveloped” looking bodies have kinky sex in school outfits all you like. You can fantasize about underage kids in your home all alone all you like. I find those both disgusting personally- but legally both are your rights and taking those rights would go against the constitution. BUT- the SECOND you endanger or harm a person, engage in sexual acts with a person unable to consent- that’s a crime. Doesn’t matter if your a pedophile or not. So go down the check list of what is and isn’t a crime and WHY- and pedos have no leg to stand on. They aren’t a marginalized preference until they try to bring fantasy to reality and then they are causing real and direct tangible harm to a victim. VICTIM, not partner.
We don't have room for your bigotry here
(sarcasm btw)