i mean if you google it there are quite a few but ok
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· 3 years ago
The main reaason they are forbidden is because they are so intimidating when someone fondles around with them in front of you. They simply have a much higher threatening factor than regular knives. As a matter of fact, it takes more training and expertise to severely hurt someone with a butterfly knife than with other types of knifes.
If we make things illegal because of how they make people feel then everything would be illegal. Length has very little to do with lethality. Sharpened metal is sharpened metal. My favourite knife to train with is half the length of this one and can do just as much damage.
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· 3 years ago
Having a favorite knife to train 'doing damage' with does in fact frighten me and sounds kinda, dunno, biased?
Literally everyone that does any kind of weapons training -- or, for that matter, any kind of training in general -- will have a preferred tool of trade.
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An artist may prefer paint, pen, charcoal, clay. They may prefer animal hair brushes to synthetic. They may prefer oil to watercolor.
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Every human being prefers specific styles of shoes -- often for different situations.
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People prefer different types of cars. Some like low, sleek, and fast. Some people only want a pick-up truck.
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Combat veterans will have had a preferred gun.
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Having a preferred tool does not automatically indicate bias -- it may actually indicate a good deal more expertise on the subject, depending, as the person had to have reached that conclusion somehow.
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And if having a preferred tool of trade is "frightening" the only real option you have is to never go outside. Everyone you meet has all kinds of preferences. It's a pandemic that can't be stopped
My wakizashi, most of the time, is just a piece of art, but damned if I don't enjoy training myself on how to effectively use it if, forbid, the need ever arise. There are some things though, that really have zero functionality besides causing destruction. A dirty nuke, for example, while requires a lot of training in the making of one, is not exactly something you lay around and put on display as art. As for the topic of butterfly knives, I have no issue, and 99.99% of the time I'd agree.
@general_failure Adam44 didn't say he had a favourite knife to train doing damage with. He that the knife he trains with CAN do the same kind of damage. His point was that the length of the blade doesn't change the fact that a stabbing is still a stabbing. Someone can send you to the hospital with a 3" blade just as easily as a 9" one.
@general_failure I didn't say I was training to "do damage" with a particular knife. I said I have a favourite knife to train with. Self-defense and outright assault are different. As for my bias? Yes, I am. I'm biased towards smaller knives as I find them easier to cook with. I also am biased towards truth and facts. A knife is a knife and can kill regardless of sharpness or length. Chefs knives are longer and typically sharper then butterfly knives and those are legal and unregistered. Would you like to change that?
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· 3 years ago
Training to use a weapon for self defense makes no sense without the intention of doing damage. Most people don't train any form of self defense, and most people training self defense practice martial arts without using weapons.
I have no trouble leaving my house any time, knowing that just a very small fraction of the people outside my house are armed or up for a fight. Might be because I live in Europe, and even in England, notorious for knife violence, most people don't carry knives.
Your first paragraph seems largely nonsensical. It's like saying if you learn how to fence your intention must be to stab people.
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Obviously you learn how to do damage while training for self defence -- but you don't train with the intent OF ever doing damage.
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And a great deal of self defence focuses on actually mitigating damage altogether. Incapacitating, or distraction - giving you time to get away. Even if you DO kill someone with a knife after they tried to kill you, that's still mitigating damage that would have been inflicted on you in the event of a struggle.
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And, yes, many people do practice martial Arts without weapons. And many other people practice martial Arts WITH weapons. Or practice firing guns. Or practice duelling. Or archery.
Well if you're going to go outside, then i guess you're just going to have to risk the fact that there are people out there who don't even know who you are.... And those people may have a weapon of choice they use for training.
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(I, personally, have a spatula I prefer over others. But we aren't going to tell them that or the others will get jealous.)
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· 3 years ago
Who is practicing fencing for self defense? And I wonder who you're addressing with your long, long rant, cause it sure ain't me.
@itsureaintme Why are you addressing part of my comment after deciding it had nothing to do with you, I wonder? Mayhaps you spend a lot of time with frogs?
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Where I come from exchanging dialogue is called conversation lol. Are you truly so over-sensitive you assume anyone disagreeing is ranting at you?
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My gosh, if you're already taking a comment like that THAT personally you're probably best avoiding me on this website, or I'll accidentally end up so deep under your skin, by the end of next week I'll be using your heart as a trampoline :P
England is a very stabby place as getting guns there is very hard to do
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@itsureisyou "Exchanging dialogue" - huh, much like the Highlander is exchanging dialogues with the other immortals. Now, I don't really recall ever having addressed you in any way, but I will most definitely remember never to do that. If I need that sort of experience, I'll drip some hot sauce in my eyes.
@thatguyyouknow this is why you smuggle in Americans. They come preloaded with guns -- like Canadians with maple syrup, and the constant need to apologize for everything in particular
@general_failure....Your username is very accurate. This devolved from a potential discussion to outright embarassment. Judge me all you want as a violent individual. I don't care. Just know that education doesn't come from a lack of experience but from an abundance of experience.
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An artist may prefer paint, pen, charcoal, clay. They may prefer animal hair brushes to synthetic. They may prefer oil to watercolor.
.
Every human being prefers specific styles of shoes -- often for different situations.
.
People prefer different types of cars. Some like low, sleek, and fast. Some people only want a pick-up truck.
.
Combat veterans will have had a preferred gun.
.
Having a preferred tool does not automatically indicate bias -- it may actually indicate a good deal more expertise on the subject, depending, as the person had to have reached that conclusion somehow.
.
And if having a preferred tool of trade is "frightening" the only real option you have is to never go outside. Everyone you meet has all kinds of preferences. It's a pandemic that can't be stopped
I have no trouble leaving my house any time, knowing that just a very small fraction of the people outside my house are armed or up for a fight. Might be because I live in Europe, and even in England, notorious for knife violence, most people don't carry knives.
.
Obviously you learn how to do damage while training for self defence -- but you don't train with the intent OF ever doing damage.
.
And a great deal of self defence focuses on actually mitigating damage altogether. Incapacitating, or distraction - giving you time to get away. Even if you DO kill someone with a knife after they tried to kill you, that's still mitigating damage that would have been inflicted on you in the event of a struggle.
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And, yes, many people do practice martial Arts without weapons. And many other people practice martial Arts WITH weapons. Or practice firing guns. Or practice duelling. Or archery.
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(I, personally, have a spatula I prefer over others. But we aren't going to tell them that or the others will get jealous.)
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Where I come from exchanging dialogue is called conversation lol. Are you truly so over-sensitive you assume anyone disagreeing is ranting at you?
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My gosh, if you're already taking a comment like that THAT personally you're probably best avoiding me on this website, or I'll accidentally end up so deep under your skin, by the end of next week I'll be using your heart as a trampoline :P